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JUDD APATOW:
What is your diet and exercise
strategies these days?
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MEL BROOKS: None, zero.
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Get up,
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stick my hands out
in front of me
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in case there's something,
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I'm going to hit something.
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-JUDD: Yeah.
-You know?
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And make my way to the bathroom,
take a shower...
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-JUDD: Mm-hmm.
-...dress, and do
my mental exercises.
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-JUDD: Mm-hmm.
-"What's your name?" "Melvin."
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-(JUDD CHUCKLES)
-"Where are you?" "I'm at home."
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"What are you gonna do now?"
"I'm gonna eat breakfast."
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(JUDD CHUCKLES)
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"Melvin,
what are you going to eat?"
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"I'm gonna probably eat
some soft-boiled eggs."
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"And anything else?" "Yes."
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"What, Melvin?" "I'm thinking."
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(JUDD CHUCKLES)
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"Maybe English muffins
with some butter."
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"Good, Melvin."
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"Should you make your way down
to the breakfast room?"
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"Thank you. That's a good idea."
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And then I'd go
to the breakfast room,
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and then I'd see people,
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and I wouldn't have to talk
to myself anymore.
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I'd have people to talk to.
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But that's
what I do every morning.
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-JUDD: You answer it correctly
you know...
-MEL: Yeah.
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-...you can start your day.
-MEL: Right, right.
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JUDD: You have all your marbles.
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♪ (FUNKY MELODY PLAYS, FADES) ♪
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{\an8}CREW MEMBER:
Five, four, three...
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INTERVIEWER: Mel Brooks,
let's talk about Blazing Saddles
for a moment.
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-Um..
-(EXCLAIMS, BLOWS RASPBERRY)
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Okay, I'm fine.
I just have to settle.
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I'll just get that
out of my system. But...
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A lot of people thought
it was the laugh of the century,
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and a lot of other people
thought it was the most crude
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and vulgar piece of stupidity...
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-Yes.
-...they'd ever seen.
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I agree with the latter group.
I do.
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But it made you a millionaire
all the same.
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Yeah. I think... Yes, we did
quite well at the box office.
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And now this sort of spoof,
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frightening, non-frightening
comic Frankenstein.
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Why do you want to make a film
about Frankenstein?
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How can Frankenstein be funny?
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Because the very essence
of Frankenstein
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is that it's frightening.
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I mean, is yours frightening?
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It's only frightening
when they're not laughing.
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-(THUNDER RUMBLING)
-NARRATOR: It's coming.
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♪ (THRILLING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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NARRATOR:
From the deep, dark recesses
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of the mind of Mel Brooks.
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I love him.
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{\an8}(READING PROMPT)
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My name,
it's pronounced Fronkensteen.
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CREW: Marker.
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And...
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action!
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Frankenstein Junior,
un film extraordinaire.
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-Give my creation life!
-(ELECTRICITY CRACKLING)
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MEL: Gene Wilder said,
"I have this idea
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for a movie about
Baron Frankenstein's grandson.
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Young Frankenstein."
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Frankenstein?
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You're putting me on.
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I said, "That's a good idea.
That's genius."
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GENE WILDER: He was preparing
Blazing Saddles.
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It hadn't come out yet.
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So when they offered him
Young Frankenstein,
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and I would be doing the writing
and he would supervise,
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it was very tempting,
and he said yes.
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To the castle!
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-The castle!
-The castle!
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-MEL: Each night...
-To the ca...
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-...after I finished...
-To the ca...
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...in the editing room
on Blazing Saddles,
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I'd go to Gene's hotel.
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We wrote and we rewrote
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and wrote and rewrote and wrote
and rewrote once again.
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DANA GOULD: Gene Wilder
came to him with the idea.
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They collaborated on the script.
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{\an8}But one of the reasons
that movie is so great
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{\an8}is something
that Mel brought to it,
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which was the slavish accuracy
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of the sets, the makeup,
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the cinematography.
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Knowing that he needs
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to play it straight
as a heart attack up to here
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so this stuff can work.
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{\an8}-(THUNDER BOOMING)
-It's alive! It's alive!
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{\an8}It's alive!
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It's alive!
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JOHNNY CARSON: Why did you
make this in black and white?
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The crayons.
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We lost all the crayons and...
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(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
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{\an8}No, we... Black and white
because James Whale.
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{\an8}It's a valentine, really,
to James Whale.
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That body is not dead.
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It has never lived.
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MEL: James Whale
was the original director
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of the first Frankenstein film.
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I was five. I loved that movie.
It scared the shit out of me.
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(GROWLING)
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MEL:
It etched itself into my mind,
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and James Whale,
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he's just a brilliant,
brilliant movie maker.
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(INDISTINCT CLAMOR)
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(SPEAKING INCOHERENTLY)
... a Frankenstein!
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CROWD: What?
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Tonight...
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we shall ascend
into the heavens.
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PATTON OSWALT:
It was one of those situations
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like with Mad magazine,
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{\an8}where you see the parody
before you see the originals
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{\an8}and it kind of informs
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{\an8}how you look at the originals.
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It's not because he's making fun
of something he hates,
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he's making fun of things
he truly loves
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and you see that, oh,
he got everything right
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about these movies.
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FREDERICK FRANKENSTEIN:
Put the candle back.
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All right,
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I think
I have it figured out now.
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Take out the candle,
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and I'll block the bookcase
with my body.
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(LOUD CRASH)
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FRANKENSTEIN: (IN MUFFLED VOICE)
Now listen to me very carefully.
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Don't put the candle back.
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{\an8}Because it looked so...
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{\an8}It was black and white,
the look of it, and I was young,
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I didn't understand
it was a comedy
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until she tells Gene Wilder,
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"You haven't touched your food,"
and he goes...
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Now I've touched it.
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"There, I've touched it."
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(CHUCKLES) I was like...
As a kid, you're like,
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"Oh, shit, he touched his food."
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{\an8}I did see Young Frankenstein.
I was a little kid.
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{\an8}And I went there
with my brother.
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We were at the...
in my hometown,
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it was called
the Jerry Lewis Theaters.
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And we went there,
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and me and my brother
stayed two in a row
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after Young Frankenstein.
We saw it twice.
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(KNOCK ECHOING)
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ADAM SANDLER: It was the best.
Couldn't believe it.
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Asked my brother
what knockers were.
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What knockers.
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Oh.
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Thank you, Doctor.
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I'm finding out
what knockers are
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and just coming home like,
"Whoa. I love knockers."
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That brain that you gave me,
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was it Hans Delbrück's?
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-No.
-Ah.
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Good.
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Uh...
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Would you mind telling me...
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whose brain
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I did put in?
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And you won't be angry?
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I will not be angry.
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Abby someone.
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-JOSH GAD: Gene Wilder...
-Abby someone?
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Abby who?
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Abby Normal.
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JOSH: He's so unpredictable.
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Abby Normal.
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{\an8}There's like this bubbling rage,
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{\an8}excitement.
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I'm almost sure
that was the name.
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(CHUCKLES)
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JOSH: He is a little bit
of a psychopath.
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Are you saying that I put
an abnormal brain
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into
a seven-and-a-half-foot long,
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54-inch wide...
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-(GASPING)
-(SHOUTING) ...gorilla?
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-(CHOKING)
-Is that what you're telling me?
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-Quick, quick, give him the--
-INGA: What?
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It's up there with some
of the greatest performances
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in any movie, in any genre.
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It's just tour de force.
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-(SPEAKING SPANISH)
-♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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-Yes!
-♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC STING) ♪
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And it was you
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who left my grandfather's book
out for me to find.
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-Yes!
-♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC STING) ♪
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I think it's the funniest thing
I have ever been in in my life.
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Then you and Victor were...
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Yes! Yes! Say it!
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He was my boyfriend!
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I was lucky.
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I found Cloris in a bar,
half shy-- Yeah.
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-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
-And...
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(APPLAUSE)
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And... And then, you know, um...
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Gene told me
about this Teri Garr person.
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Elevate me.
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Now, right here?
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I said, "She's absolutely
beautiful. Can she act?"
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And Gene said-- Gene said,
"Who gives a shit?"
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(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
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I thought I told you
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never to interrupt me
while I'm working!
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INTERVIEWER:
What do you play in the film?
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I play the part of Igor.
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No, it's pronounced I-gor.
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Actually, a hunchback.
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I don't have the hump with me
at the moment.
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Where's your hump?
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Never with tails.
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-(BELL JINGLING)
-(GROWLING)
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-Thank you, Lord.
-MEL: When we were casting,
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Gene Wilder called me and said,
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"What do you think
of Gene Hackman
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for the blind man?"
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And I said,
"What about Orson Welles
for the squirrel?"
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-You know...
-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
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"What do you mean? Gene Hackman,
he gets a million bucks.
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You can't... Gene Hackman."
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He said,
"Gene Hackman wants to play it."
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-Mm-hmm.
-BLIND MAN: Wait.
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(SLURPING)
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A toast.
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A toast to, yes,
long friendship.
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-(CUP CLATTERS)
-(GROANS)
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-How hungry you must have been.
-(GRUNTS)
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And now, and now,
now for a little surprise.
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For a special occasion,
I've been saving...
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cigars.
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{\an8}I can't imagine making movies
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{\an8}without having watched
his movies,
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{\an8}because as a kid...
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Just hold it right there.
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...Young Frankenstein...
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Don't inhale
until the tip glows.
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...it was
just the funniest movie ever.
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(SCREAMS)
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(GROANING LOUDLY IN PAIN)
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(SCREAMING)
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When I went forward
and started making stuff,
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you know,
that was sort of the vernacular.
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{\an8}MAURY BALLSTEIN:
You're the laughingstock
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{\an8}of the entire fashion world.
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{\an8}BEN STILLER: When I started
on Zoolander, I think...
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What do we do
when we fall off the horse?
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...Young Frankenstein
was very clearly in my mind.
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We get back on.
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Sorry, Maury. I'm not a gymnast.
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That's how I convinced myself
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how to commit to the tone,
I was thinking,
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"Well, if Mel Brooks
could do that...
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(GROANING)
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-...I could try to do that."
-Calm down.
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BEN: And then I remember
just like the sex jokes...
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I'm a... I...
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...that were happening
for a kid at that time.
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Oh, my God.
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Woof!
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Like, I remember
it was very confusing
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when Frankenstein,
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when Peter Boyle
would get aroused.
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I'm engaged.
And once, he took my...
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But I didn't... It was never...
All the...
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(MOANS) Oh, I... (MOANING)
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(SINGING)
♪ Oh, sweet mystery of life ♪
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♪ At last I found you ♪
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-MEL: And action!
-(GROWLING)
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BEN: And I've seen some
of the outtakes.
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(GROWLING)
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-Stop that! Now just stop that.
-BEN: You know, it's so much fun
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to see them
cracking each other up.
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Drop it!
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(CAST LAUGHING)
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But there was
an incredible commitment...
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-(ROARS)
-...to the genre.
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Everybody was playing it
so real.
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Let me out. Let me out of here.
Get me the hell out of here.
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And for the next,
like, 20 years,
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it affected everything.
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-♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
-MEL: And action!
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FRANKENSTEIN:
Five, six, seven, eight.
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MEL:
The one thing I wouldn't do...
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Ladies and gentlemen,
up until now you've seen...
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...with Young Frankenstein
was "Putting on the Ritz."
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...the creature perform
the simple mechanics
of motor activity.
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MEL:
He thought it was a great idea.
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I said, "No, it will tear it.
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It's over the top."
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Into the realm of genius.
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GENE: And Mel said...
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May I now present
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a cultured, sophisticated
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man about town.
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"Are you crazy?
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You're going
to have all of our work
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go down the drain?"
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And I argued why it was valid.
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I was close to rage and tears.
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And right in mid-sentence,
Mel says, “Okay, it's in.”
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And I didn't know
if he was joking or not.
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And I said, “What do you mean?”
He says, “It's in.”
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“What, why did you put me
through this?”
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And he said, “I wasn't sure
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if it was right
or terribly wrong.
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I didn't know.
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And I wanted to see
how hard you'd fight for it.
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And I knew
if you fought hard enough,
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it was right.
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And you did. So it's in.”
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And it was
never mentioned again.
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♪ If you're blue
And you don't know ♪
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♪ Where to go to ♪
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♪ Why don't you go
Where fashion sits? ♪
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(IN STRAINED VOICE)
♪ Putting on the Ritz ♪
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♪ Different types
Who wear a day coat ♪
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♪ Pants with stripes
Or cutaway coat ♪
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♪ Perfect fits ♪
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(IN STRAINED VOICE)
♪ Putting on the Ritz ♪
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♪ Dressed up like a... ♪
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In one year, 1974,
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Blazing Saddles
and Young Frank--
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both of them number one
in movie charts.
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It was just...
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it was a miracle year, 1974.
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Very good for me.
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Not so good for Richard Nixon.
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(IN STRAINED VOICE)
♪ Putting on the Ritz ♪
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♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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NICHOLAS BROOKS:
When Blazing Saddles
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and Young Frank hit,
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it transformed my dad
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from "Mel Who" or...
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{\an8}"I... I think I know you,"
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{\an8}to "Mel Brooks."
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♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪
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NICHOLAS: But for our family,
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those movies
changed the picture entirely.
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Because when he went out to L.A.
to work on Blazing Saddles,
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he moved out there.
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Max was two
or something like that
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when they moved.
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But, you know,
my dad had been this presence,
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this physical presence
in our lives,
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and then suddenly
the visits stopped.
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I think for a while
I was a little angry.
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Occasionally he would fly in,
or we would fly out to L.A.,
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but, um,
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it wasn't the same rhythm
of connection.
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♪ (UPBEAT JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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Mel Brooks.
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MAX BROOKS:
The truth about my childhood was
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it was
an immigrant community.
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{\an8}Immigrants to California.
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{\an8}Most of them were also
first-generation Americans.
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So it really was about people
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setting up a life
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in this new city.
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But anxiety was constant.
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And I think part of it was
when you spend
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your formative years
with nothing,
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you assume
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that the nothing
is always there.
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So there was always that fear
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that it was going
to be taken away.
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And it was the 1970s.
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This is when
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a whole new generation
of celebrities around them
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sometimes got caught up
in the bad press.
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So my parents
were very much about,
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"Be careful
who you associate with.
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Know people, trust people.
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It's always better
to have a few very close,
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deep friendships."
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Where the hell are you going?
Here, there...
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MAX:
But my dad was always my dad.
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Why are you so busy?
Why don't you stand still?
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MAX: And I got
extremely lucky that
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the kind of craziness
that you see
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in the character of Mel Brooks
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was exactly what I got at home.
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INTERVIEWER: I know your mother
lives on Miami Beach.
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Would you like to say hello?
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Hello, Mother. How are you?
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Hello. And my brother Lenny
lives in Fort Lauderdale.
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Leonard Kaminsky.
Hello, Leonard.
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Thank you for-- Thank you for
for not changing the name.
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Somebody had to keep the name.
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And my mother, Kate Kaminsky.
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Oh, wait a minute.
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Can you bring the camera down
a little bit? Look at me.
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Now that's a little better.
Hello, Mom. Now she can see me.
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Hello, Mom. How are you?
I love you.
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Thanks. Thanks for producing me.
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(CREW LAUGHING)
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JUDD:
How long did your mom live?
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MEL: Not bad. Ninety-two.
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JUDD: So, she got to see it all.
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MEL: She got to see a lot of it.
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How excited about your career
was she?
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MEL: She was very excited.
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-Every time I won something...
-JUDD: Mm-hmm.
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...whether it was an Emmy
or an Oscar,
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or whatever that I won,
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I would send it to her.
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Yeah.
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MEL: She'd put it on her TV set.
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The whole building would come
through her apartment,
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she served tea and cookies,
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-to see the Emmy or whatever.
-Yeah.
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And I once went down there.
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I had a very strange,
very weird, strange incident.
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Anne and I went down,
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and I hired a big, beautiful
Lincoln Town Car.
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This car... (LAUGHS)
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It makes me laugh.
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This car pulls up,
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and the driver's
wearing a little cap.
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And he says to me,
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"Who you got?"
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(JUDD CHUCKLES)
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I said,
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"What do you mean?"
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"Who you driving? Who you got?"
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And I said,
"Oh." I got it right away,
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so I said, "Mel Brooks."
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-He said, "Wow...
-(JUDD CHUCKLLES)
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... Mel Brooks.
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Is he a good tipper?"
I said, "The best."
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(MEL AND JUDD CHUCKLING)
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♪ (SOFT PIANO MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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MEL:
I started life as a drummer.
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I'm sorry I stopped.
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Because it was the best
and the loudest way
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of calling attention to myself.
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(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
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MEL: But I think I'm primarily
an observer of life
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who formalizes the observations
by writing them down.
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Some of us have no ego
or other need
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to tell anybody else
about those observations.
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00:17:51,529 --> 00:17:55,283
But I needed
to pronounce myself.
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A film has to be
about something.
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I used a western
to say other things.
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00:18:00,746 --> 00:18:04,166
I did use Young Frankenstein
to say a lot of other things.
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Everything I have to say,
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every serious comment
I have to make
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on the human condition,
our behavior,
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I can make through comedy.
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Um, now I'm going
to tell you something
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I shouldn't tell you.
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There's a girl in Cleveland,
her name is Sheila.
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No, no, I made-- That--
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(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
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Is this sort of humor of yours,
is it a fixture or is it a fad?
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I hope... (CLEARS THROAT)
...that my contribution,
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cinematically, comically,
to the world
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will be durable.
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As a matter of fact,
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um, comedy as an art form
is not saluted, really.
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The Academy Awards, they--
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it's Towering Inferno time,
do you know what I mean?
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And, uh,
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comedy is never even listed
as the best picture.
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And the ones,
the films that seem to live
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for 40 or 50 years
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are comedies,
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are the Chaplin,
the great Chaplin comedies
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and W. C. Fields and--
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INTERVIEWER: What's the title
of your next film?
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Silent Movie Madness.
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And that's completely silent?
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It's a very noisy silent movie.
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{\an8}♪ (LIVELY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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{\an8}MEL: Gene Wilder was busy,
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so I said,
I'll split leading men.
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It'll be me, Marty Feldman,
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and Dom DeLuise.
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I even stuck Sid Caesar
in the movie.
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♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪
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MEL: Silent Movie
made a curious comment
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on Hollywood,
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on the usurpation
and the swallowing up
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of small artistic film studios
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by corporate giants
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who make baked potatoes,
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rubber tires, and movies.
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So Silent Movie
gives me a chance to vent
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my hatred
for these corporate pirates.
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{\an8}Mel wrote a book
a couple of years ago
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{\an8}and he gave me credit
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{\an8}for bringing him
the idea for his silent movie.
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He also said
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he had a stroke of genius
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when he thought
of Marcel Marceau.
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Non!
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RON CLARK: So I called him.
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I said, "Mel, you mentioned
502
00:20:26,517 --> 00:20:29,145
Marcel Marceau as your idea.
503
00:20:29,186 --> 00:20:30,312
Don't you remember
504
00:20:30,354 --> 00:20:33,149
that when I had the idea
for the film,
505
00:20:33,232 --> 00:20:35,651
it was... Marceau was the key?"
506
00:20:36,527 --> 00:20:38,028
And he said...
507
00:20:38,112 --> 00:20:39,822
He said,
"It was such a good idea.
508
00:20:39,905 --> 00:20:41,407
I figured it had to be mine."
509
00:20:42,158 --> 00:20:44,368
♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
510
00:20:44,452 --> 00:20:47,496
JUDD: Was it fun to suddenly be
the lead of the movies?
511
00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:51,500
MEL: It was great. It was great.
I was so happy.
512
00:20:51,584 --> 00:20:53,794
JUDD: I mean, I was trying
to explain to my daughter
513
00:20:53,878 --> 00:20:55,212
that era this morning.
514
00:20:55,296 --> 00:20:57,339
I was like,
"Mel Brooks in that moment
515
00:20:57,423 --> 00:20:59,592
-was like Beyoncé."
-MEL: Yeah.
516
00:21:00,384 --> 00:21:01,927
JUDD: You became the superstar.
517
00:21:02,011 --> 00:21:03,596
(APPLAUSE)
518
00:21:03,679 --> 00:21:05,014
Will you take your seat, please.
519
00:21:05,097 --> 00:21:06,682
(MEL MUMBLING INDISTINCTLY)
520
00:21:06,724 --> 00:21:07,808
It's all right.
521
00:21:07,850 --> 00:21:09,351
-(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
522
00:21:09,393 --> 00:21:11,187
-Just a joke.
-Okay.
523
00:21:11,228 --> 00:21:12,605
You have fans
all over the world.
524
00:21:12,688 --> 00:21:15,983
They're waiting every year
to see a new Mel Brooks film.
525
00:21:16,066 --> 00:21:17,359
But you take such a long time
526
00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:18,694
-to make a film.
-Well, you know...
527
00:21:18,736 --> 00:21:19,779
INTERVIEWER: Where is it?
528
00:21:19,862 --> 00:21:22,031
-To make a good film...
-INTERVIEWER: How do you do it?
529
00:21:22,114 --> 00:21:24,200
To make a good film, here,
here's how you do it.
530
00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:25,576
You take...
You're... you're doing it--
531
00:21:25,659 --> 00:21:27,453
You take your sugar,
you take it like this,
532
00:21:27,536 --> 00:21:28,704
put it all together.
533
00:21:28,788 --> 00:21:30,706
Then the bones tell you.
534
00:21:30,790 --> 00:21:33,542
(IN EXAGGERATED YIDDISH ACCENT)
Yes, yes, a gypsy.
535
00:21:33,626 --> 00:21:35,836
I do a film, a gypsy.
536
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,547
The government...
There's two governments.
537
00:21:38,631 --> 00:21:41,550
The French government,
Romanian government,
538
00:21:41,634 --> 00:21:43,719
Hungarian government.
539
00:21:43,803 --> 00:21:45,638
-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
-Here is three government.
540
00:21:45,721 --> 00:21:49,558
I take the government, I make
a film. I make three government.
541
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,186
The common market
is a government.
542
00:21:52,228 --> 00:21:54,980
(IN NORMAL VOICE)
See, it's more complicated
than that, I assure you.
543
00:21:55,064 --> 00:21:58,317
What I'm trying to illustrate
in the very comic sense is
544
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,862
that the planning of a film
is often the largest part of it.
545
00:22:01,946 --> 00:22:03,239
That is the writing.
546
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,365
A concept,
547
00:22:05,115 --> 00:22:06,450
uh, captured in a script
548
00:22:06,534 --> 00:22:08,202
is the most important part
of a film.
549
00:22:08,285 --> 00:22:11,080
The rest of it is important too,
550
00:22:11,121 --> 00:22:13,624
-but the script is 90 percent.
-Yeah.
551
00:22:13,707 --> 00:22:15,084
Yeah, I know a lot.
I've been around.
552
00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:16,752
-I'm very sophisticated.
-Are you sure?
553
00:22:16,794 --> 00:22:18,295
Yes, I drink white wine
with fish.
554
00:22:18,379 --> 00:22:19,922
-I know everything.
-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
555
00:22:19,964 --> 00:22:23,259
{\an8}There's nothing more delicate
in certain ways than a comedy.
556
00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:25,094
I mean, it's very delicate,
557
00:22:25,135 --> 00:22:27,680
'cause you can take
a particular joke,
558
00:22:27,763 --> 00:22:29,682
and if it's not presented
in the proper way,
559
00:22:29,765 --> 00:22:30,891
it doesn't work.
560
00:22:30,933 --> 00:22:32,643
♪ (PLAYFUL TUNE PLAYING) ♪
561
00:22:32,726 --> 00:22:34,728
BARRY LEVINSON:
I'd say on one particular gag
562
00:22:34,770 --> 00:22:39,066
in Silent Movie,
I think we must have recut it
563
00:22:39,149 --> 00:22:40,901
-about ten times.
-(CHOMPS)
564
00:22:40,985 --> 00:22:42,862
-(LOUD BOING ECHOING)
-(SMOOCHES)
565
00:22:42,945 --> 00:22:43,946
(SOFT BOING ECHOING)
566
00:22:43,988 --> 00:22:46,115
You know, it's a little laugh.
It's not big enough.
567
00:22:46,156 --> 00:22:47,283
It's a big laugh.
568
00:22:47,366 --> 00:22:48,909
-There's a big laugh here.
-(SPRINGS BOINGING)
569
00:22:48,993 --> 00:22:51,453
And then he would go,
"What about," et cetera,
570
00:22:51,495 --> 00:22:52,621
and then suddenly...
571
00:22:53,455 --> 00:22:55,624
♪ (MUSIC STOPS ABRUPTLY) ♪
572
00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:56,917
There it was.
573
00:22:57,001 --> 00:22:58,502
Not a little...
(CHUCKLES HALF-HEARTEDLY)
574
00:22:58,586 --> 00:22:59,628
JUDD: Yeah.
575
00:22:59,670 --> 00:23:01,255
(CHUCKLES)
You know, he always...
576
00:23:01,338 --> 00:23:02,298
He wanted...
577
00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:04,300
"I want to see people
doubled up,
578
00:23:04,383 --> 00:23:05,926
that they can't breathe."
579
00:23:08,053 --> 00:23:10,472
{\an8}I do remember once
on High Anxiety,
580
00:23:10,514 --> 00:23:12,474
{\an8}I was thinking
in terms of Psycho.
581
00:23:12,558 --> 00:23:14,018
(GLASS SHATTERING)
582
00:23:14,101 --> 00:23:16,353
Do you fellas
want to see your rooms or not?
583
00:23:16,437 --> 00:23:18,147
Barry Levinson,
who looks just like you,
584
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:19,648
-I swear to God.
-Yeah?
585
00:23:19,690 --> 00:23:21,191
Barry Levinson,
who is the bellboy.
586
00:23:21,275 --> 00:23:23,569
Here's your key.
I'll bring your bag in a minute.
587
00:23:23,652 --> 00:23:24,862
He's the bellboy in the hotel,
588
00:23:24,945 --> 00:23:26,989
and he attacks me in the shower,
like Psycho.
589
00:23:27,031 --> 00:23:29,158
I was making fun of it one day,
590
00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:32,161
and I was saying, like--
the bellhop was going...
591
00:23:32,202 --> 00:23:33,412
(HIGH-PITCHED SCREAMS)
592
00:23:33,495 --> 00:23:34,872
(HIGH-PITCHED SCREAMS)
593
00:23:34,955 --> 00:23:36,874
(HIGH-PITCHED SCREAMS)
With the newspaper...
594
00:23:36,957 --> 00:23:40,210
(SCREAMS) Here’s your paper,
here’s your paper,
595
00:23:40,294 --> 00:23:41,962
here’s your paper!
596
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,216
(SCREAMING) Happy now? Happy?
Happy now?
597
00:23:48,385 --> 00:23:49,887
BARRY:
If it was a worthwhile idea,
598
00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:51,305
then he would run with it.
599
00:23:52,264 --> 00:23:53,432
If it wasn't,
600
00:23:53,515 --> 00:23:55,434
then you'd move on
to something else.
601
00:23:56,268 --> 00:23:58,103
But he was very open to that.
602
00:23:59,688 --> 00:24:01,982
That kid gets no tip.
603
00:24:02,066 --> 00:24:03,359
BARRY: We didn't just write it.
604
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,486
We were there on the set
when it was being shot.
605
00:24:05,569 --> 00:24:08,030
So we were there
every day of the shoot.
606
00:24:08,072 --> 00:24:09,782
There'd be a moment
and you thought,
607
00:24:09,865 --> 00:24:12,034
"Well, maybe that
could be better," you know,
608
00:24:12,117 --> 00:24:13,702
and you go over to Mel,
609
00:24:13,786 --> 00:24:15,371
"Mel, I was wondering..."
610
00:24:15,412 --> 00:24:18,832
And then he would go like,
"Hold it, we're not moving on.
611
00:24:19,333 --> 00:24:21,001
Barry's not happy."
612
00:24:21,085 --> 00:24:23,379
You know,
and so you feel embarrassed.
613
00:24:23,420 --> 00:24:24,421
(CHUCKLES)
614
00:24:24,505 --> 00:24:25,923
ANNE BANCROFT:
What kind of roles do you think
615
00:24:26,006 --> 00:24:28,550
you would have gotten
if you weren't writing your own?
616
00:24:28,592 --> 00:24:29,885
MEL: Oh, my favorite roll
617
00:24:29,927 --> 00:24:31,553
would be the King of Germany,
the Kaiser roll.
618
00:24:31,595 --> 00:24:33,722
-(ANNE LAUGHS)
-MEL: That would be-- No.
619
00:24:33,806 --> 00:24:35,891
♪ (PIANO MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
620
00:24:37,101 --> 00:24:40,229
♪ High anxiety... ♪
621
00:24:40,312 --> 00:24:43,190
I made myself a leading man
in High Anxiety
622
00:24:43,232 --> 00:24:45,567
because I always wanted
to imitate Frank Sinatra.
623
00:24:45,609 --> 00:24:49,071
♪ High anxiety... ♪
624
00:24:49,154 --> 00:24:52,282
I guess I made myself
a leading man because...
625
00:24:52,366 --> 00:24:54,702
in real life I knew
I could never be a leading man.
626
00:24:54,785 --> 00:24:57,997
♪ My heart's afraid to fly ♪
627
00:24:58,664 --> 00:25:01,291
♪ It's crashed before ♪
628
00:25:02,835 --> 00:25:05,713
♪ But then you take my hand ♪
629
00:25:06,672 --> 00:25:12,219
♪ My heart starts
To soar once more ♪
630
00:25:12,302 --> 00:25:14,096
♪ High anxiety... ♪
631
00:25:14,138 --> 00:25:16,140
JUDD:
Where you grew up, there weren't
a lot of Jewish kids.
632
00:25:16,223 --> 00:25:18,100
So, what did it mean
633
00:25:18,142 --> 00:25:20,936
that there was the guy like Mel
out there,
634
00:25:20,978 --> 00:25:23,230
just this Jewish performer,
writer,
635
00:25:23,313 --> 00:25:25,190
director, producer?
636
00:25:25,274 --> 00:25:30,362
There's not anybody
our age or up
637
00:25:30,446 --> 00:25:33,699
that didn't have the pride
of Mel being Jewish
638
00:25:33,782 --> 00:25:34,992
and being like,
639
00:25:35,075 --> 00:25:37,494
"You know that dude
you quote all the time?
640
00:25:37,578 --> 00:25:38,662
He's one of us."
641
00:25:38,746 --> 00:25:39,830
♪ High anxiety... ♪
642
00:25:39,913 --> 00:25:42,458
SARAH SILVERMAN: I had just
never seen anything like it.
643
00:25:42,541 --> 00:25:44,668
{\an8}You know, like being Jewish
in a lot of communities
644
00:25:44,752 --> 00:25:47,129
{\an8}is like something
that you come out.
645
00:25:47,212 --> 00:25:50,215
{\an8}It's almost like being gay,
you know, like, uh...
646
00:25:51,341 --> 00:25:52,426
to be...
647
00:25:53,594 --> 00:25:57,556
proud of it, it would be--
is like-- seems crazy.
648
00:25:57,639 --> 00:26:00,434
{\an8}He was so Jewish,
but he was kind of cool.
649
00:26:00,517 --> 00:26:02,061
{\an8}Like, he was cooler to me than,
650
00:26:02,144 --> 00:26:03,479
{\an8}like, Woody Allen,
651
00:26:03,562 --> 00:26:06,607
uh, for any number of reasons.
652
00:26:07,357 --> 00:26:09,318
But, um... (CHUCKLES)
653
00:26:09,401 --> 00:26:12,154
He didn't... You know,
he looked the way he looked,
654
00:26:12,196 --> 00:26:15,824
but he had so much charisma
and he was very confident.
655
00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:17,493
That's the thing I got from him.
656
00:26:17,576 --> 00:26:18,744
He was super confident,
657
00:26:18,827 --> 00:26:21,663
and he had no problem
going for it.
658
00:26:21,747 --> 00:26:23,123
MEL: ♪ That I blame... ♪
659
00:26:23,207 --> 00:26:24,500
Mel was the kind of guy
660
00:26:24,541 --> 00:26:26,335
that you felt like Sinatra
would be like,
661
00:26:26,418 --> 00:26:29,088
“Holy shit. Let me say hi
to Mel Brooks, man.”
662
00:26:29,171 --> 00:26:30,172
He just was the shit.
663
00:26:30,255 --> 00:26:32,466
♪ I've got to give in ♪
664
00:26:34,218 --> 00:26:38,013
♪ High anxiety ♪
665
00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:40,682
And remember, folks,
be good to your parents.
666
00:26:40,766 --> 00:26:42,351
They've been good to you.
667
00:26:42,392 --> 00:26:49,066
♪ You win ♪
668
00:26:49,149 --> 00:26:51,235
♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪
669
00:26:58,075 --> 00:27:00,661
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
670
00:27:02,371 --> 00:27:05,624
DINAH SHORE: I didn't talk
to you about working
in a movie with Mel.
671
00:27:05,707 --> 00:27:07,376
ANNE: For years, we never wanted
to work together,
672
00:27:07,417 --> 00:27:08,794
'cause we thought
it would be terrible.
673
00:27:08,877 --> 00:27:10,337
-♪ (MUSIC CUTS OFF) ♪
-(SHUFFLING)
674
00:27:10,379 --> 00:27:13,632
It wound up being two weeks,
the happiest of my whole life,
675
00:27:13,715 --> 00:27:15,217
'cause I loved
working with him.
676
00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:16,885
-Yeah?
-Oh, I... Yes, I just loved it.
677
00:27:16,969 --> 00:27:19,096
You hear that, honey?
Write me a part. (CHUCKLES)
678
00:27:19,179 --> 00:27:24,852
♪ (TANGO MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
679
00:27:25,352 --> 00:27:26,937
(CHUCKLES SOFTLY)
680
00:27:48,709 --> 00:27:49,835
(CRASHING)
681
00:27:49,918 --> 00:27:52,504
(LAUGHING)
682
00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:55,883
♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪
683
00:28:00,387 --> 00:28:03,432
MEL: (CHUCKLES) Oh, God.
684
00:28:03,473 --> 00:28:04,808
It's hard for me to watch her.
685
00:28:04,892 --> 00:28:06,143
She was so good.
686
00:28:13,650 --> 00:28:15,569
Look at her eyes. She does it.
687
00:28:15,652 --> 00:28:16,904
She matches him.
688
00:28:16,987 --> 00:28:17,988
She's amazing.
689
00:28:21,491 --> 00:28:23,118
And she did that
as a favor to me.
690
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,120
-JUDD: Yeah. (CHUCKLES)
-♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪
691
00:28:25,204 --> 00:28:27,372
That's probably why
you fell in love with Annie.
692
00:28:27,456 --> 00:28:28,957
You didn't know
that she could do that weird...
693
00:28:29,041 --> 00:28:31,668
No, it's true. I found that out
much later in our marriage.
694
00:28:31,752 --> 00:28:33,295
One day,
she was putting on her makeup,
695
00:28:33,337 --> 00:28:35,714
and I was like, you know
how men like to do that,
696
00:28:35,797 --> 00:28:37,716
to watch how they do it
so they can do it later
697
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:39,551
-when women go out of town.
-JOHNNY: That's right.
698
00:28:39,635 --> 00:28:41,470
So, I was...
699
00:28:41,511 --> 00:28:43,472
I was watching,
and she was doing everything,
700
00:28:43,513 --> 00:28:45,015
and then suddenly she did that.
701
00:28:45,098 --> 00:28:47,059
She crossed her eyes,
and I said,
702
00:28:47,142 --> 00:28:48,393
"One day
I'm going to do a movie,
703
00:28:48,477 --> 00:28:49,978
and you're going to do that
in the movie."
704
00:28:50,020 --> 00:28:51,688
And she said, "Oh yeah, sure."
You know.
705
00:28:51,772 --> 00:28:53,148
-JOHNNY: And she did it.
-And she did it,
706
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:54,900
and it was really incredible.
We couldn't believe it.
707
00:28:54,983 --> 00:28:56,735
Marty couldn't believe it.
Marty Feldman,
708
00:28:56,818 --> 00:28:58,946
who has one eye--
one in Chicago,
one in Cincinnati.
709
00:28:59,029 --> 00:29:01,698
-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
-(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY)
710
00:29:01,782 --> 00:29:03,992
-Oh!
-Oh my goodness.
711
00:29:04,034 --> 00:29:06,328
-(APPLAUSE)
-Anne Bancroft.
712
00:29:06,370 --> 00:29:09,122
-(WHOOPS)
-(APPLAUSE CONTINUES)
713
00:29:09,206 --> 00:29:10,791
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
714
00:29:10,874 --> 00:29:13,502
-Are you coming for dinner? Yes.
-Yes!
715
00:29:13,543 --> 00:29:15,170
-Did you see...
-Anne Bancroft!
716
00:29:15,212 --> 00:29:16,338
Did you see me?
717
00:29:16,421 --> 00:29:18,131
(LAUGHING)
718
00:29:21,093 --> 00:29:23,637
I mean, all of you out there
who are married know.
719
00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:26,098
This is the first time
we've ever been
on television together.
720
00:29:26,181 --> 00:29:27,516
No. No, on The Carson Show
721
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:28,892
they always point to you
in your seat.
722
00:29:28,976 --> 00:29:31,353
But never talking like this,
and close like this.
723
00:29:31,436 --> 00:29:33,689
-We don't allow you. No, no, no.
-Never. Yes.
724
00:29:33,730 --> 00:29:35,357
-(INTERVIEWER
SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY)
-This is history.
725
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,484
-Yes, history.
-My darling.
726
00:29:37,567 --> 00:29:39,736
-(LAUGHING)
-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
727
00:29:39,820 --> 00:29:42,239
INTERVIEWER:
You didn't know that your wife
was coming on here, did you?
728
00:29:42,322 --> 00:29:45,409
I had no idea. I had no idea
my wife was coming on,
729
00:29:45,492 --> 00:29:47,119
but it's always a pleasure
to see my wife.
730
00:29:47,202 --> 00:29:48,662
You want to do, uh...
731
00:29:48,745 --> 00:29:50,205
-What was the--
-(LAUGHS) Oh, no!
732
00:29:50,289 --> 00:29:52,207
No, what was the big one
we used to do years ago?
733
00:29:52,249 --> 00:29:53,250
The, uh...
734
00:29:53,333 --> 00:29:54,793
♪ They say
They're falling in love ♪
735
00:29:54,876 --> 00:29:56,712
-We never did that.
-No, no, no. Uh...
736
00:29:56,795 --> 00:29:59,923
-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
-♪ (SCATS MUSIC NOTES) ♪
737
00:30:00,007 --> 00:30:01,717
♪ (VOCALISING) ♪
738
00:30:01,758 --> 00:30:03,051
Oh, that's so--
That key is so high.
739
00:30:03,135 --> 00:30:05,762
-That's your other wife.
-That's-- No, no.
740
00:30:05,846 --> 00:30:08,223
Now, we can do a little
of "Bells Are Ringing."
741
00:30:08,307 --> 00:30:09,975
(CLEARS THROAT)
Okay, here we go.
742
00:30:11,184 --> 00:30:12,894
-♪ The-- ♪
-♪ The bells are ♪
743
00:30:12,978 --> 00:30:15,230
-It's me. It's my part.
-You did... But I'll do the...
744
00:30:15,314 --> 00:30:16,606
We got a microphone here.
745
00:30:16,690 --> 00:30:18,608
You mean I've been doing this
without a microphone?
746
00:30:18,692 --> 00:30:19,818
No, no. But you're in here.
747
00:30:19,901 --> 00:30:20,902
♪ The bell ♪
748
00:30:20,944 --> 00:30:25,532
(BOTH) ♪ The bells are ringing ♪
749
00:30:25,615 --> 00:30:29,911
♪ For me and my gal ♪
750
00:30:29,995 --> 00:30:34,416
-♪ The birds are singing ♪
-♪ Singing ♪
751
00:30:34,458 --> 00:30:38,712
(BOTH) ♪ For me and my gal ♪
752
00:30:38,795 --> 00:30:40,589
INTERVIEWER: This is the end
of the doubles match
753
00:30:40,672 --> 00:30:42,924
which pitted Penny Marshall
and Mel Brooks
754
00:30:42,966 --> 00:30:45,761
against Carl Reiner
and guess who?
755
00:30:45,844 --> 00:30:47,137
(EXCLAIMS)
756
00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:49,598
(CHEERING)
757
00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:52,142
UMPIRE: Point, set, match.
758
00:30:52,225 --> 00:30:53,602
Marshall and Brooks,
759
00:30:53,685 --> 00:30:57,773
they win four games
to three in the tiebreaker.
760
00:30:57,856 --> 00:30:59,524
-INTERVIEWER:
Could I ask you a question?
-What?
761
00:30:59,608 --> 00:31:01,568
When you and Mel spend
a quiet evening at home,
762
00:31:01,651 --> 00:31:04,988
is it as animated as I see you?
763
00:31:05,072 --> 00:31:07,407
When I talk to Mel,
it's very animated and you..
764
00:31:07,491 --> 00:31:09,701
I don't think we've ever
really talked.
765
00:31:09,785 --> 00:31:11,578
You know what I mean?
We never sit down and say,
766
00:31:11,661 --> 00:31:12,704
"Well, what did you do today?"
767
00:31:12,788 --> 00:31:14,456
INTERVIEWER: How do you know
the marriage is working?
768
00:31:14,539 --> 00:31:15,499
I don't. I don't know.
769
00:31:15,582 --> 00:31:17,125
-Tell me, is it?
-(LAUGHS)
770
00:31:17,167 --> 00:31:18,877
I don't even know
if he likes me.
771
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,212
Oh! Ooh!
772
00:31:20,295 --> 00:31:22,506
I'll sell you his interview.
You want to buy it?
773
00:31:22,589 --> 00:31:23,673
Oh!
774
00:31:23,757 --> 00:31:25,217
INTERVIEWER:
Oh, does he like you.
775
00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:26,802
Well, that's so nice to know.
776
00:31:26,885 --> 00:31:30,972
(SPEAKING ITALIAN DOUBLE-TALK)
777
00:31:31,014 --> 00:31:32,849
He said--
778
00:31:32,933 --> 00:31:36,436
He says the girl took the fuzz
off the ball.
779
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,648
(SPEAKING ITALIAN DOUBLE-TALK)
780
00:31:39,731 --> 00:31:40,857
...topspin, topspin...
781
00:31:40,941 --> 00:31:42,859
(CONTINUES ITALIAN DOUBLE-TALK)
782
00:31:42,943 --> 00:31:44,236
Ball, the ball, the ball!
783
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:47,364
He says because he is bald,
he has no topspin.
784
00:31:47,447 --> 00:31:50,033
(SPEAKING ITALIAN DOUBLE-TALK)
785
00:31:50,117 --> 00:31:54,871
(SPEAKING ITALIAN DOUBLE-TALK)
786
00:31:58,917 --> 00:32:01,211
Sexual activity in room 412.
787
00:32:01,294 --> 00:32:04,506
-(BYSTANDERS LAUGHING)
-(APPLAUSE)
788
00:32:04,548 --> 00:32:07,843
ROB REINER: My father used
to refer to him as a doctor
789
00:32:07,884 --> 00:32:12,639
because he read
more medical journals...
790
00:32:12,722 --> 00:32:16,017
I mean, if you didn't have
the money to go visit a doctor,
791
00:32:16,059 --> 00:32:17,853
you could go to Mel.
792
00:32:17,936 --> 00:32:20,981
{\an8}And I always thought,
even though,
793
00:32:21,022 --> 00:32:24,526
{\an8}Mel was only like four years
younger than my dad,
794
00:32:24,568 --> 00:32:27,779
{\an8}I think he looked to my dad
as like a father figure.
795
00:32:29,030 --> 00:32:31,408
JUDD: Rob was saying that
he thought in some ways
796
00:32:31,491 --> 00:32:34,244
Carl was almost like
a father figure to you.
797
00:32:34,327 --> 00:32:36,955
Yeah, well, I lost my father
when I was two years old.
798
00:32:37,038 --> 00:32:38,081
JUDD: Yeah.
799
00:32:38,165 --> 00:32:40,208
And I was always,
I think, unconsciously
800
00:32:40,292 --> 00:32:44,129
searching for some guidance
from an older man, you know.
801
00:32:44,212 --> 00:32:45,255
JUDD: Yeah.
802
00:32:45,338 --> 00:32:46,840
And Carl was nice and tall.
803
00:32:46,923 --> 00:32:48,383
(JUDD CHUCKLES)
804
00:32:48,425 --> 00:32:51,303
-I literally looked up to Carl.
-JUDD: Yeah.
805
00:32:51,386 --> 00:32:54,055
And Carl, for all his...
806
00:32:55,432 --> 00:32:58,768
schtick and insanity,
was wise...
807
00:32:58,852 --> 00:33:00,729
-JUDD: Yeah.
-...and loving.
808
00:33:00,812 --> 00:33:03,523
And I just said,
"That's my father."
809
00:33:03,607 --> 00:33:04,733
JUDD: Wow.
810
00:33:04,774 --> 00:33:07,694
I just felt that Carl was there
and I was very close to him.
811
00:33:09,654 --> 00:33:11,448
JUDD: And then when you hear
all these stories about Mel
812
00:33:11,531 --> 00:33:13,074
with your dad and Norman Lear
813
00:33:13,116 --> 00:33:14,659
and Dom DeLuise
and Larry Gelbart
814
00:33:14,743 --> 00:33:16,161
and this incredible
group of people
815
00:33:16,244 --> 00:33:17,746
-who hung out.
-ROB: Yeah, yeah.
816
00:33:17,787 --> 00:33:20,123
And they
would spend weekends together
817
00:33:20,207 --> 00:33:23,919
and they each had their own
comedy skill set that would...
818
00:33:24,002 --> 00:33:25,003
It was like, you know,
819
00:33:25,086 --> 00:33:28,215
"Just let's make each other
laugh and have fun."
820
00:33:28,298 --> 00:33:29,925
CARL REINER:
It was the most laughter
821
00:33:29,966 --> 00:33:31,426
I've ever been involved with,
822
00:33:31,510 --> 00:33:33,011
ever, ever, ever in my life.
823
00:33:33,094 --> 00:33:35,347
Nobody ever laughed like that.
824
00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:37,974
{\an8}And we realized there's a club.
825
00:33:38,058 --> 00:33:40,894
{\an8}We decided to call ourselves
Yenem Velt.
826
00:33:40,977 --> 00:33:42,604
Yenem Velt,
827
00:33:42,687 --> 00:33:45,482
which is a Yiddish term
for "the other world."
828
00:33:45,565 --> 00:33:48,318
{\an8}I knew the guy
who had the houses
829
00:33:48,401 --> 00:33:50,570
{\an8}and invited us
to take them anytime.
830
00:33:50,654 --> 00:33:51,988
I put it together.
831
00:33:52,072 --> 00:33:53,615
Five bedrooms.
832
00:33:53,657 --> 00:33:57,244
And one bedroom
was about four inches larger
833
00:33:57,327 --> 00:33:58,787
-than the other bedroom.
-(INTERVIEWER LAUGHS)
834
00:33:58,828 --> 00:34:00,121
MEL: It was much bigger.
835
00:34:00,205 --> 00:34:02,624
NORMAN LEAR:
And I took that bedroom.
836
00:34:02,707 --> 00:34:05,126
He never stopped resenting it.
837
00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:06,294
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
838
00:34:06,378 --> 00:34:07,796
-All right.
-He told us--
839
00:34:07,879 --> 00:34:11,132
He told me at lunch
just a few years ago.
840
00:34:11,174 --> 00:34:12,634
{\an8}(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
841
00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:14,970
{\an8}Mel thought
when he got slapped on the ass
842
00:34:15,053 --> 00:34:16,137
{\an8}by the doctor who delivered him
843
00:34:16,221 --> 00:34:17,597
{\an8}that that was applause.
844
00:34:18,682 --> 00:34:21,017
And he has not stopped
performing since.
845
00:34:24,688 --> 00:34:27,107
There was not
and there is nobody like Mel.
846
00:34:29,568 --> 00:34:31,528
INTERVIEWER:
What do you think of Mel Brooks?
847
00:34:31,611 --> 00:34:34,322
I can say that I think
848
00:34:35,156 --> 00:34:36,533
he is the only
849
00:34:37,284 --> 00:34:38,785
authentic genius
850
00:34:39,452 --> 00:34:40,662
that I've ever met.
851
00:34:40,745 --> 00:34:42,289
The reasons why...
852
00:34:43,498 --> 00:34:46,001
(SMACKING LOUDLY)
853
00:34:46,084 --> 00:34:47,168
But I'm not here.
854
00:34:47,210 --> 00:34:48,795
(CHUCKLES)
855
00:34:48,878 --> 00:34:50,547
I had the greatest
856
00:34:51,715 --> 00:34:53,675
theatrical experiences
of my life
857
00:34:53,717 --> 00:34:54,968
working with him.
858
00:34:55,051 --> 00:34:56,177
MEL: And sexual.
859
00:34:57,178 --> 00:34:59,055
And sexual experiences.
860
00:34:59,889 --> 00:35:01,182
And, um,
861
00:35:02,225 --> 00:35:03,685
on Young Frankenstein,
862
00:35:03,768 --> 00:35:06,354
we did something
that was unique.
863
00:35:07,522 --> 00:35:09,190
We both wrote,
864
00:35:09,232 --> 00:35:11,067
he directed, I starred.
865
00:35:12,277 --> 00:35:16,072
And I feel that now, with Mel
866
00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:19,326
directing and acting,
867
00:35:20,076 --> 00:35:21,411
the scripts that he's written,
868
00:35:22,746 --> 00:35:24,456
he is gearing those scripts
869
00:35:24,539 --> 00:35:27,208
for himself as a performer.
870
00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:31,046
So those scripts are shaped
according to his talent,
871
00:35:31,087 --> 00:35:33,381
what he wants to do
as a performer.
872
00:35:33,465 --> 00:35:35,383
For me to just step in,
873
00:35:35,467 --> 00:35:37,052
it would be a little bit crazy
874
00:35:37,135 --> 00:35:39,095
because it wouldn't be right
for me.
875
00:35:39,179 --> 00:35:41,222
And I've come to the conclusion
876
00:35:41,306 --> 00:35:42,974
that the only way
877
00:35:43,058 --> 00:35:46,686
that it will be right
for us to create magic again
878
00:35:46,770 --> 00:35:48,772
will be for us both to write,
879
00:35:48,855 --> 00:35:51,232
him to direct, and me to star.
880
00:35:51,274 --> 00:35:53,610
And since I'm one
of the few people in the world
881
00:35:53,693 --> 00:35:55,737
who want nothing from him,
882
00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:57,906
I'm going to wait
until that day comes
883
00:35:57,947 --> 00:35:59,532
when he says, "I'm ready."
884
00:36:00,742 --> 00:36:02,702
{\an8}I've come
on the most urgent of business.
885
00:36:02,786 --> 00:36:04,913
{\an8}It is said
that the people are revolting.
886
00:36:04,954 --> 00:36:07,248
{\an8}You said it. They stink on ice.
887
00:36:07,332 --> 00:36:09,584
No, Your Majesty,
this is a very serious problem.
888
00:36:09,668 --> 00:36:12,128
The peasants feel
you have no regard for them.
889
00:36:12,212 --> 00:36:15,507
What? I have no regard
for the peasants?
890
00:36:15,590 --> 00:36:18,218
They are my people.
I am their sovereign.
891
00:36:18,885 --> 00:36:20,136
I love them.
892
00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:21,179
Pull!
893
00:36:21,262 --> 00:36:25,600
-(GUNSHOT)
-(MAN SCREAMING)
894
00:36:25,642 --> 00:36:26,935
Drifting to the left.
895
00:36:27,018 --> 00:36:29,020
You must always go
for the essence of the film.
896
00:36:29,104 --> 00:36:30,230
Pull!
897
00:36:30,313 --> 00:36:31,606
-(GUNSHOT)
-(MAN EMITS SHORT SCREAM)
898
00:36:32,357 --> 00:36:33,441
Fell like a stone.
899
00:36:33,483 --> 00:36:34,609
What is the film about?
900
00:36:34,693 --> 00:36:36,111
Shall we continue
901
00:36:36,152 --> 00:36:38,780
to build palace after palace
for the rich?
902
00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:41,950
Or shall we aspire
to a more noble purpose
903
00:36:41,991 --> 00:36:44,577
and build decent housing
for the poor?
904
00:36:45,745 --> 00:36:47,622
{\an8}GROUP: Fuck the poor!
905
00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:51,668
The next movie I'm making,
it's behind me on the wall here,
906
00:36:52,752 --> 00:36:57,799
is Mel Brooks's
History of the World, Part I.
907
00:36:57,882 --> 00:37:01,469
♪ (ADVENTUROUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
908
00:37:01,511 --> 00:37:03,722
This will be the Stone Age.
909
00:37:04,931 --> 00:37:07,225
And the first man
will masturbate.
910
00:37:07,308 --> 00:37:08,852
(MEN GRUNTING)
911
00:37:08,935 --> 00:37:10,812
MEL: We will freeze
the frame and say,
912
00:37:10,854 --> 00:37:11,896
"Our forefathers."
913
00:37:12,439 --> 00:37:14,399
{\an8}(GRUNTING CONTINUES)
914
00:37:15,024 --> 00:37:16,818
All pay heed!
915
00:37:16,860 --> 00:37:19,529
The Lord, the Lord Jehovah,
916
00:37:19,612 --> 00:37:22,365
has given unto you these 15...
917
00:37:22,449 --> 00:37:23,825
♪ (MUSIC STOPS) ♪
918
00:37:23,908 --> 00:37:24,909
Oy.
919
00:37:25,869 --> 00:37:28,496
Ten! Ten commandments!
920
00:37:28,538 --> 00:37:30,165
MEL: And then we'll land
and the next bit
921
00:37:30,206 --> 00:37:32,000
will be the Roman Empire.
922
00:37:32,041 --> 00:37:34,169
-CLERK: Occupation?
-COMICUS: Stand-up philosopher.
923
00:37:34,252 --> 00:37:37,380
I coalesce the vapor
of human experience
924
00:37:37,464 --> 00:37:40,258
into a viable
and logical comprehension.
925
00:37:40,759 --> 00:37:41,968
Oh.
926
00:37:42,051 --> 00:37:43,720
A bullshit artist.
927
00:37:43,803 --> 00:37:45,263
(GRUMBLES)
928
00:37:45,346 --> 00:37:47,849
MEL: And we continue to show
that the administrators...
929
00:37:47,891 --> 00:37:49,225
Oh, Caesar!
930
00:37:49,893 --> 00:37:50,894
(BURPS)
931
00:37:50,977 --> 00:37:52,228
...the leaders, the kings,
932
00:37:52,854 --> 00:37:54,230
are animals and brutal.
933
00:37:54,314 --> 00:37:56,608
That's just
a little philosophical point.
934
00:37:56,691 --> 00:37:57,692
Say when.
935
00:37:58,568 --> 00:37:59,694
8:30.
936
00:38:02,947 --> 00:38:04,699
MEL: We move
from the Roman Empire...
937
00:38:04,741 --> 00:38:08,161
For now begins the Inquisition.
938
00:38:08,244 --> 00:38:10,705
...over
to the Spanish Inquisition.
939
00:38:10,747 --> 00:38:12,290
♪ ("THE INQUISITION"
BY MEL BROOKS PLAYING) ♪
940
00:38:12,373 --> 00:38:14,709
-♪ The Inquisition ♪
-♪ Let's begin ♪
941
00:38:14,793 --> 00:38:17,045
-♪ The Inquisition ♪
-♪ Look out, sin ♪
942
00:38:17,086 --> 00:38:18,630
♪ We have a mission ♪
943
00:38:18,713 --> 00:38:19,964
♪ To convert the Jews ♪
944
00:38:20,048 --> 00:38:21,758
♪ Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew
Jew, Jew, Jew... ♪
945
00:38:21,841 --> 00:38:24,260
MEL:
It was a man called Torquemada
who came and took Jews,
946
00:38:24,344 --> 00:38:26,763
put them on racks,
broke their bones.
947
00:38:26,846 --> 00:38:30,058
And we're gonna make
a Busby Berkeley musical number
948
00:38:30,141 --> 00:38:31,768
out of the Spanish Inquisition.
949
00:38:31,851 --> 00:38:36,231
-♪ Confess, don't be boring ♪
-♪ Confess, confess ♪
950
00:38:36,272 --> 00:38:39,609
-♪ Say yes, don't be dull ♪
-♪ Say yes, say yes ♪
951
00:38:40,860 --> 00:38:45,198
-♪ A fact you're ignoring ♪
-♪ A fact you're ignoring ♪
952
00:38:45,281 --> 00:38:47,450
♪ It's better
To lose your skullcap ♪
953
00:38:47,534 --> 00:38:49,244
♪ Than your skull ♪
954
00:38:49,285 --> 00:38:50,453
♪ Oy oy gevalt ♪
955
00:38:50,537 --> 00:38:54,040
♪ The Inquisition, yeah... ♪
(SINGING INDISTINCTLY)
956
00:38:54,082 --> 00:38:56,626
Oh, "The Inquisition."
Shit, we didn't talk about that.
957
00:38:56,709 --> 00:38:58,753
This is fucking batshit,
958
00:38:58,837 --> 00:39:01,172
and it is
the most delightful thing
959
00:39:01,256 --> 00:39:02,549
I've ever seen in my life.
960
00:39:02,590 --> 00:39:08,096
It's full-on, truly brilliant
musical theater Broadway level.
961
00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:09,889
♪ (LIVELY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
962
00:39:09,973 --> 00:39:11,975
♪ Scit, scat, and voodoo-lee-vat
And doodle-dee-day ♪
963
00:39:12,058 --> 00:39:13,101
♪ Will you convert? ♪
964
00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:14,602
♪ No, no, no, no ♪
965
00:39:14,686 --> 00:39:15,687
♪ Will you confess? ♪
966
00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:17,146
♪ No, no, no, no ♪
967
00:39:17,230 --> 00:39:18,273
♪ Will you revert? ♪
968
00:39:18,314 --> 00:39:19,607
♪ No, no, no, no ♪
969
00:39:19,691 --> 00:39:20,775
♪ Will you say yes? ♪
970
00:39:20,859 --> 00:39:22,318
♪ No, no, no, no ♪
971
00:39:22,402 --> 00:39:24,946
♪ Now, I asked in a nice way
I said pretty please ♪
972
00:39:24,988 --> 00:39:27,657
♪ I bent their ears
Now, I'll work on their knees ♪
973
00:39:27,740 --> 00:39:29,993
♪ (DYNAMIC MELODY PLAYING) ♪
974
00:39:33,496 --> 00:39:36,291
-(SCREAMS)
-Ha-ha!
975
00:39:36,332 --> 00:39:38,376
♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
976
00:39:42,422 --> 00:39:45,008
{\an8}He got bad reviews, of course.
977
00:39:45,091 --> 00:39:47,135
{\an8}You know, you just,
you don't hear that.
978
00:39:47,176 --> 00:39:48,845
{\an8}You know, like the Beatles
got bad reviews.
979
00:39:50,805 --> 00:39:54,142
History of the World was
a really big deal in my house.
980
00:39:54,225 --> 00:39:56,394
The jokes
about the Spanish Inquisition
981
00:39:56,477 --> 00:39:58,855
-and "It's Good to Be the King."
-It's good to be the King.
982
00:39:58,938 --> 00:40:01,482
-♪ The Inquisition
What a show ♪
-♪ What a show ♪
983
00:40:01,524 --> 00:40:03,693
AMY SCHUMER: Even as
that grotesque character,
984
00:40:03,776 --> 00:40:04,986
you still loved Mel Brooks.
985
00:40:05,069 --> 00:40:07,572
Death, hump, death, hump, death.
Your time is running out.
986
00:40:07,655 --> 00:40:09,157
'Cause he was making fun
987
00:40:09,198 --> 00:40:10,700
of ultimate privilege and power.
988
00:40:10,783 --> 00:40:12,368
Oh, please. Listen to me.
989
00:40:12,452 --> 00:40:13,870
I'm not the king!
990
00:40:13,953 --> 00:40:15,830
CROWD: Bullshit!
991
00:40:15,914 --> 00:40:17,498
It's a very hard crowd.
992
00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:20,293
♪ Because
The Inquisition's here ♪
993
00:40:20,376 --> 00:40:24,047
♪ And it's here to ♪
994
00:40:24,130 --> 00:40:29,302
♪ Stay ♪
995
00:40:29,385 --> 00:40:30,386
♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
996
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:33,848
You know, and the eunuchs,
castrated men.
997
00:40:34,474 --> 00:40:35,767
Well, wait, the eunuchs...
998
00:40:35,850 --> 00:40:37,393
Is it-- That's not castration
999
00:40:37,477 --> 00:40:39,270
if you just cut their balls off,
is it?
1000
00:40:39,896 --> 00:40:41,064
That's still castration?
1001
00:40:41,147 --> 00:40:42,690
JUDD:
I think that is castration.
1002
00:40:42,774 --> 00:40:44,734
God, I've been doing it wrong
all these years.
1003
00:40:44,817 --> 00:40:45,860
We had hoped to have,
1004
00:40:45,944 --> 00:40:47,528
and I think I mentioned this
last night,
1005
00:40:47,612 --> 00:40:49,405
Rex Reed
of the New York Daily News,
1006
00:40:49,489 --> 00:40:52,075
who hated Mel Brooks's picture.
1007
00:40:52,158 --> 00:40:53,868
And Rex, I thought
it might have been nice
1008
00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:55,995
if Rex had been here
to confront Mel
1009
00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:58,206
and give him face-to-face
his review of the picture,
1010
00:40:58,247 --> 00:40:59,874
The History of the World,
Part I.
1011
00:40:59,958 --> 00:41:01,751
But we had a call
from Rex Reed today,
1012
00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:03,878
and unfortunately,
he is not able to make it.
1013
00:41:03,962 --> 00:41:05,755
Something about a toothache,
or...
1014
00:41:05,838 --> 00:41:09,550
I wished... Oh, I wanted
Rex Reed to be here tonight.
1015
00:41:09,634 --> 00:41:11,552
Oh, so, so much. But...
1016
00:41:11,636 --> 00:41:13,554
-(TOM SNYDER LAUGHS)
-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1017
00:41:13,596 --> 00:41:15,181
TOM: You mean
for a little conversation,
1018
00:41:15,264 --> 00:41:16,474
a little chat. Exactly.
1019
00:41:16,557 --> 00:41:18,726
I like face-to-face
confrontation.
1020
00:41:18,810 --> 00:41:22,730
I don't like writing things,
scrawling little hate messages.
1021
00:41:22,772 --> 00:41:25,024
"How do I hate thee?
Let me count the ways."
1022
00:41:25,108 --> 00:41:26,943
But I mean, sometimes
the critics put things down
1023
00:41:27,026 --> 00:41:28,277
because it puts them up.
1024
00:41:28,361 --> 00:41:30,154
It is self-righteous.
1025
00:41:30,238 --> 00:41:31,572
They're hypocritical.
1026
00:41:31,656 --> 00:41:33,241
They don't break wind.
1027
00:41:33,282 --> 00:41:34,742
-They don't...
-(AUDIENCE MEMBERS LAUGH)
1028
00:41:34,826 --> 00:41:36,619
I mean, they don't have sex.
1029
00:41:36,703 --> 00:41:38,746
People laugh at Jew jokes,
Polish jokes,
1030
00:41:38,830 --> 00:41:40,123
passing gas jokes,
1031
00:41:40,206 --> 00:41:42,250
going to the bathroom jokes,
all that stuff in private.
1032
00:41:42,291 --> 00:41:43,584
And then
we get to the movie theater
1033
00:41:43,626 --> 00:41:44,919
and we're supposed
to make believe
1034
00:41:44,961 --> 00:41:46,963
that nobody ever does that.
It's ridiculous, frankly.
1035
00:41:47,046 --> 00:41:48,798
I'm writing a movie
to please the critics.
1036
00:41:48,881 --> 00:41:50,508
People will have no orifices.
1037
00:41:50,591 --> 00:41:51,592
These...
1038
00:41:51,634 --> 00:41:53,261
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1039
00:41:53,302 --> 00:41:54,595
TOM:
How are we gonna breathe?
1040
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:56,597
Things will...
Everything will be sealed.
1041
00:41:56,681 --> 00:41:58,516
Everything will be clean.
We will...
1042
00:41:58,599 --> 00:41:59,934
You will not hear the sound
1043
00:41:59,976 --> 00:42:01,936
of breaking wind
across the prairie.
1044
00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:04,939
It will be the cleanest,
nicest movie.
1045
00:42:04,981 --> 00:42:06,774
And only the critics
will see it,
1046
00:42:06,816 --> 00:42:08,067
-unfortunately.
-TOM: Yeah, yeah.
1047
00:42:08,109 --> 00:42:09,694
I don't think we'll get
an audience for it.
1048
00:42:09,777 --> 00:42:11,112
-Yeah.
-I'm a rum runner.
1049
00:42:11,195 --> 00:42:13,656
I'm a rum runner.
I have terrific rum.
1050
00:42:13,740 --> 00:42:15,450
It's 110-proof rum.
1051
00:42:15,491 --> 00:42:17,827
It's funny rum. It's good rum.
It's hot rum.
1052
00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:19,495
Some people like
that kind of rum.
1053
00:42:19,579 --> 00:42:21,247
I gotta get that rum
to the people.
1054
00:42:21,330 --> 00:42:22,373
I'm trying to get it.
1055
00:42:22,457 --> 00:42:24,959
Now, there's a picket line,
a picket line of critics.
1056
00:42:25,043 --> 00:42:26,502
"It stinks. It's tall.
It's short.
1057
00:42:26,586 --> 00:42:27,628
It's Jewish. It's funny.
1058
00:42:27,712 --> 00:42:29,088
It's smart. It's twisted.
It's a bagel.
1059
00:42:29,130 --> 00:42:30,298
It's a tagel. It's a ragel."
1060
00:42:30,339 --> 00:42:32,967
I mean, they don't...
They don't let you...
1061
00:42:33,009 --> 00:42:34,469
But for some reason,
1062
00:42:34,552 --> 00:42:37,472
the initial basic
wonderful contract
1063
00:42:37,513 --> 00:42:39,974
is with the filmmaker
and the people.
1064
00:42:40,058 --> 00:42:41,893
And the only thing
1065
00:42:41,976 --> 00:42:43,519
that makes a picture live
is time.
1066
00:42:44,187 --> 00:42:46,439
We will outlive all the critics.
1067
00:42:46,522 --> 00:42:49,942
♪ (MELANCHOLIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1068
00:43:04,749 --> 00:43:08,377
MAX: My father is beloved
by the people
1069
00:43:08,961 --> 00:43:10,505
and he is worshipped
1070
00:43:10,588 --> 00:43:11,881
by comedians.
1071
00:43:12,548 --> 00:43:14,050
NARRATOR:
Here, in a cave
1072
00:43:14,133 --> 00:43:15,843
somewhere
in the North American continent,
1073
00:43:15,927 --> 00:43:18,179
the first artist was born.
1074
00:43:18,262 --> 00:43:19,680
MAX: But the intelligentsia
1075
00:43:19,764 --> 00:43:21,599
never really embraced him,
1076
00:43:21,682 --> 00:43:23,351
never saw him as a genius.
1077
00:43:23,392 --> 00:43:24,435
(GRUNTING)
1078
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:28,272
MAX: He was never wise,
he was never insightful.
1079
00:43:28,356 --> 00:43:31,734
He was always just commercial
and silly and slapstick.
1080
00:43:31,818 --> 00:43:35,113
NARRATOR: And of course,
with the birth of the artist
1081
00:43:35,988 --> 00:43:38,616
came the inevitable afterbirth.
1082
00:43:40,284 --> 00:43:41,327
The critic.
1083
00:43:46,082 --> 00:43:48,793
(GRUNTING)
1084
00:43:49,502 --> 00:43:51,379
There is a production number
1085
00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:53,881
in History of the World, Part I
that...
1086
00:43:54,966 --> 00:43:57,593
It is, I think,
the highlight of the movie.
1087
00:43:57,677 --> 00:43:59,929
Now, everybody has different--
I was... I was...
1088
00:44:00,012 --> 00:44:01,806
I think
it is a stroke of genius.
1089
00:44:01,889 --> 00:44:03,766
Some people hate it.
1090
00:44:03,850 --> 00:44:05,643
I loved it.
1091
00:44:05,726 --> 00:44:07,603
Short, dumb people hate it.
1092
00:44:07,687 --> 00:44:10,022
(LAUGHS)
1093
00:44:10,106 --> 00:44:13,568
Tall, interesting,
handsome people
1094
00:44:13,651 --> 00:44:15,236
like it.
1095
00:44:15,278 --> 00:44:16,904
MAURY POVICH: There are people
who got disgusted,
1096
00:44:16,988 --> 00:44:18,072
walked out of theaters.
1097
00:44:18,114 --> 00:44:19,365
Some gossip columnist
1098
00:44:19,448 --> 00:44:21,242
said that you
were making terrible fun...
1099
00:44:21,325 --> 00:44:23,286
-Right, they--
-...of a tragic time in history.
1100
00:44:23,369 --> 00:44:24,620
Exactly.
1101
00:44:24,704 --> 00:44:26,414
They thought
that the Inquisition
1102
00:44:26,497 --> 00:44:29,917
was not the subject matter
for comedy.
1103
00:44:30,001 --> 00:44:32,253
And I maintain seriously that
1104
00:44:32,295 --> 00:44:35,089
there is nothing that is not
the subject matter for comedy
1105
00:44:35,131 --> 00:44:37,592
because comedy is a sensational
1106
00:44:37,675 --> 00:44:40,469
and sometimes spectacular
political weapon.
1107
00:44:40,553 --> 00:44:42,597
{\an8}Pauline Kael, a great critic
of The New Yorker
1108
00:44:42,638 --> 00:44:44,974
{\an8}who had disliked
his earlier films,
1109
00:44:45,057 --> 00:44:46,684
{\an8}came around on this one
1110
00:44:46,767 --> 00:44:49,145
and said, "This is brilliant."
1111
00:44:49,228 --> 00:44:51,939
Her opening paragraph
in The New Yorker was,
1112
00:44:52,023 --> 00:44:54,442
"If Mel Brooks
doesn't go too far,
1113
00:44:54,525 --> 00:44:55,693
he hasn't moved."
1114
00:44:55,776 --> 00:44:59,322
It shocked me.
I panned the movie in 1981
1115
00:44:59,405 --> 00:45:00,656
in New York magazine
1116
00:45:00,740 --> 00:45:02,366
'cause I thought
it went too far.
1117
00:45:02,450 --> 00:45:05,661
And when I saw it again
and again,
1118
00:45:06,579 --> 00:45:09,040
it struck me
as this is the most daring,
1119
00:45:09,123 --> 00:45:11,167
the craziest thing
he's ever done.
1120
00:45:11,250 --> 00:45:12,668
It pushes art
1121
00:45:12,752 --> 00:45:14,837
in almost
a kind of modernist way,
1122
00:45:14,921 --> 00:45:16,339
like theater of cruelty way,
1123
00:45:16,422 --> 00:45:18,799
push the thing
as far as it can go.
1124
00:45:18,841 --> 00:45:21,636
And it's borderline hostile
to the audience
1125
00:45:21,677 --> 00:45:23,471
until you realize
1126
00:45:23,554 --> 00:45:25,640
what he's doing and you reset.
1127
00:45:25,681 --> 00:45:27,099
And then after you see it...
1128
00:45:28,059 --> 00:45:29,518
the second and third time,
1129
00:45:29,602 --> 00:45:32,021
I think there's
an immense release,
1130
00:45:32,104 --> 00:45:33,522
the release of anguish.
1131
00:45:33,606 --> 00:45:35,775
Um, "Yes, I can laugh at this."
1132
00:45:36,817 --> 00:45:38,152
CHARLIE ROSE: How much of comedy
1133
00:45:38,236 --> 00:45:40,821
comes out of anger,
out of your own anger,
your rage?
1134
00:45:40,863 --> 00:45:42,657
You're right.
A lot comes out of passion.
1135
00:45:42,698 --> 00:45:44,075
-What are you angry about today?
-A lot.
1136
00:45:44,158 --> 00:45:46,369
Where's the rage today
when you look at America?
1137
00:45:46,452 --> 00:45:47,495
Not your movies,
1138
00:45:47,578 --> 00:45:48,871
but when you look at America
and say,
1139
00:45:48,955 --> 00:45:51,666
"That is wrong and that's going
to take America to the..."
1140
00:45:51,707 --> 00:45:53,626
What gets me crazy and angry
1141
00:45:53,709 --> 00:45:56,796
is that a couple of guys
in Washington
1142
00:45:56,879 --> 00:45:59,715
will sit around a table
and decide
1143
00:46:00,883 --> 00:46:04,762
to spend billions
and billions of dollars
1144
00:46:04,845 --> 00:46:08,182
for an antique aircraft carrier
1145
00:46:08,266 --> 00:46:11,185
while truly needy programs
1146
00:46:11,269 --> 00:46:12,728
have been completely wiped away
1147
00:46:12,812 --> 00:46:15,231
by an administration
that is not...
1148
00:46:15,314 --> 00:46:16,774
-(APPLAUSE)
-A woman.
1149
00:46:16,857 --> 00:46:18,859
A woman
doing the same job as a man
1150
00:46:18,943 --> 00:46:20,736
gets a raw deal
because she's a woman.
1151
00:46:20,820 --> 00:46:23,364
There are many
real horrible things.
1152
00:46:23,406 --> 00:46:25,366
A person,
because of the color of his skin
1153
00:46:25,408 --> 00:46:28,202
or because
of his religious beliefs,
1154
00:46:28,244 --> 00:46:31,247
is put down.
I mean, there are many things,
1155
00:46:31,330 --> 00:46:32,873
that we're not
addressing ourselves to,
1156
00:46:32,915 --> 00:46:35,042
that have to be addressed
in some artistic form.
1157
00:46:35,126 --> 00:46:36,711
If the government's
not gonna pay attention,
1158
00:46:36,752 --> 00:46:37,878
art must pay attention.
1159
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,756
{\an8}As a comic, uh,
as an artist
1160
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,384
{\an8}yeah, you have to be
a little bit fearless.
1161
00:46:43,426 --> 00:46:44,719
{\an8}You have to be
a little bit fearless.
1162
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,679
{\an8}When you feel
you have to say something,
1163
00:46:46,762 --> 00:46:47,805
you gotta say it.
1164
00:46:47,888 --> 00:46:50,224
And you gotta be able to live
with the consequences.
1165
00:46:50,308 --> 00:46:51,559
Like, if you're gonna do it,
1166
00:46:51,642 --> 00:46:53,436
you have to go hard
in the pain.
1167
00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:56,105
Right? You can't half-ass
political satire.
1168
00:46:56,188 --> 00:46:57,440
Like, what's the point of that?
1169
00:46:57,523 --> 00:46:58,607
If you're gonna do it,
1170
00:46:58,691 --> 00:47:00,818
if you're gonna say something
about awful people,
1171
00:47:00,901 --> 00:47:02,361
you have to go all in.
1172
00:47:02,445 --> 00:47:04,071
I think that's
one of the big things
1173
00:47:04,113 --> 00:47:06,907
that separates satire
from just yelling in a crowd
1174
00:47:06,949 --> 00:47:08,743
is you have to be...
Go hard,
1175
00:47:08,826 --> 00:47:10,536
but you have to make sure
it's also funny.
1176
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,874
{\an8}(FILM REEL WHIRRING)
1177
00:47:15,458 --> 00:47:18,836
{\an8}(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1178
00:47:18,919 --> 00:47:20,629
VIEWER 1:
Is that who I think it is?
1179
00:47:20,713 --> 00:47:22,840
VIEWER 2: Yes, that's
Adolf Hitler in a home movie.
1180
00:47:23,549 --> 00:47:26,635
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1181
00:47:28,471 --> 00:47:29,930
VIEWER 1:
Looks a little like Mel Brooks.
1182
00:47:30,014 --> 00:47:32,641
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1183
00:47:34,935 --> 00:47:37,271
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1184
00:47:37,313 --> 00:47:38,564
MAN 1: Who's taking the picture?
1185
00:47:39,148 --> 00:47:41,108
MAN 2: Eva. Eva Braun.
1186
00:47:41,192 --> 00:47:42,568
And not too many people know it,
1187
00:47:42,651 --> 00:47:44,987
but he was a secret admirer
of Charlie Chaplin.
1188
00:47:45,071 --> 00:47:47,615
Now this is
extremely rare footage.
1189
00:47:47,698 --> 00:47:49,116
At least with sound.
1190
00:47:49,158 --> 00:47:51,577
-(SPEAKING GERMAN DOUBLE-TALK)
-Mm!
1191
00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:55,289
(SPEAKING GERMAN) That?
1192
00:47:55,373 --> 00:47:57,958
-Apple sauce.
-Apple sauce. Apple sauce...
1193
00:47:58,042 --> 00:47:59,460
(SPEAKER GERMAN DOUBLE-TALK)
1194
00:47:59,543 --> 00:48:01,420
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1195
00:48:01,504 --> 00:48:02,797
Danke.
1196
00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:06,842
♪ (WHISTLING
"SPRINGTIME FOR HITLER") ♪
1197
00:48:06,926 --> 00:48:09,970
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1198
00:48:10,054 --> 00:48:11,764
JUDD: What do you think
was his instinct
1199
00:48:11,847 --> 00:48:13,808
to go hard at Nazis so much?
1200
00:48:13,891 --> 00:48:16,477
Well, I think it's
what we Jews do
1201
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:17,853
as survival.
1202
00:48:17,937 --> 00:48:19,897
You know, it's you take...
1203
00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:21,357
He had in Twelve Chairs,
1204
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,151
I think there's a line
where he says, um,
1205
00:48:24,235 --> 00:48:26,445
"Hope for the best,
expect the worst."
1206
00:48:26,487 --> 00:48:29,365
And it's this thing...
It's a survival mechanism
1207
00:48:29,448 --> 00:48:31,075
of comedy.
1208
00:48:31,158 --> 00:48:36,163
Humor is a way to keep you going
and keep you, uh...
1209
00:48:36,247 --> 00:48:38,082
keep those Nazis at bay.
1210
00:48:38,165 --> 00:48:39,375
It was a bug.
1211
00:48:39,458 --> 00:48:42,128
A bug. You killed a bug.
1212
00:48:42,211 --> 00:48:46,006
A bug, a living thing,
you just take its life away.
1213
00:48:46,090 --> 00:48:48,551
Boom, that's it, it's over.
Boom.
1214
00:48:48,634 --> 00:48:50,553
CONAN O'BRIEN:
People have been critical...
1215
00:48:50,636 --> 00:48:53,013
You just don't kill things.
What's the matter with you?
1216
00:48:53,097 --> 00:48:55,808
...about Mel putting a comb
under his nose
1217
00:48:55,850 --> 00:48:58,936
and pretending to be Hitler
or making light of the Nazis
1218
00:48:59,019 --> 00:49:00,646
or making light of all this.
1219
00:49:00,729 --> 00:49:02,189
And I always remember
1220
00:49:02,273 --> 00:49:05,192
{\an8}he could hear German soldiers
across the river.
1221
00:49:06,152 --> 00:49:08,112
{\an8}He was fighting the Germans.
1222
00:49:08,195 --> 00:49:10,948
If you fought the Germans
in World War II,
1223
00:49:11,031 --> 00:49:13,659
you're allowed to do
whatever the fuck you want.
1224
00:49:13,742 --> 00:49:15,953
And what better way
1225
00:49:16,036 --> 00:49:20,040
to overcome a tyrant
than to ridicule him?
1226
00:49:20,082 --> 00:49:22,084
{\an8}When people are doing
1227
00:49:22,168 --> 00:49:25,212
{\an8}cruel and crazy
and terrible things,
1228
00:49:25,254 --> 00:49:28,215
it's important
to remind everyone
1229
00:49:28,257 --> 00:49:30,676
that they're cruel
and terrible things.
1230
00:49:30,759 --> 00:49:32,720
And if you don't,
1231
00:49:32,761 --> 00:49:35,222
perhaps we become
acclimated to it.
1232
00:49:35,264 --> 00:49:37,266
And, you know, for me,
1233
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:39,894
I do feel like it's a little bit
of a release valve
1234
00:49:39,935 --> 00:49:42,563
for people to, um,
1235
00:49:42,646 --> 00:49:45,608
see the powers that be
made fun of,
1236
00:49:45,691 --> 00:49:48,402
but also I think
it's a good reminder.
1237
00:49:48,444 --> 00:49:51,572
It's good to remind people
that this isn't normal.
1238
00:49:51,655 --> 00:49:55,701
The greatest threat
to these types of people
1239
00:49:55,784 --> 00:49:57,745
is to not be taken seriously.
1240
00:49:57,786 --> 00:49:59,914
Vladimir Putin
1241
00:49:59,955 --> 00:50:01,874
does not allow comedians
to make fun of him.
1242
00:50:01,957 --> 00:50:04,251
That is an arrestable offense.
1243
00:50:04,335 --> 00:50:06,712
You don't get arrested for that
1244
00:50:06,795 --> 00:50:08,464
because he
doesn't like the joke.
1245
00:50:08,547 --> 00:50:10,591
You get arrested because
1246
00:50:11,509 --> 00:50:14,595
he knows the joke is dangerous.
1247
00:50:14,637 --> 00:50:17,598
Comedy helps minimize
terrifying things
1248
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,642
so that you can move forward
1249
00:50:19,725 --> 00:50:21,769
in the face
of something terrifying.
1250
00:50:21,852 --> 00:50:24,146
It feels good
to say those things.
1251
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:26,941
It feels good...
to hear those things.
1252
00:50:27,024 --> 00:50:29,568
MEL: See "Hitler on Ice!"
1253
00:50:29,610 --> 00:50:34,365
♪ (WALTZ MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1254
00:50:34,448 --> 00:50:36,033
MEL: Sometimes my comedy
1255
00:50:36,116 --> 00:50:38,786
is just to celebrate
the joy of being alive.
1256
00:50:38,869 --> 00:50:42,206
Here comes the mustache.
Here is the face.
1257
00:50:42,289 --> 00:50:43,916
MEL: And sometimes
it is philosophical
1258
00:50:43,999 --> 00:50:45,042
and ideological,
1259
00:50:45,125 --> 00:50:47,378
and I use it as skillfully
as I know how.
1260
00:50:48,128 --> 00:50:50,047
Comedy ridicules.
1261
00:50:50,130 --> 00:50:51,507
Comedy demotes.
1262
00:50:52,508 --> 00:50:54,969
Comedy destroys
1263
00:50:55,052 --> 00:50:56,679
the dignity of the enemy.
1264
00:50:58,681 --> 00:51:00,766
ALAN KING: Does Mel Brooks want
to be taken seriously?
1265
00:51:00,849 --> 00:51:03,185
On occasion, I do.
Yeah, on occasion.
1266
00:51:03,269 --> 00:51:06,814
I would like to have
the largesse, the ability
1267
00:51:06,855 --> 00:51:10,776
to do
a profoundly serious movie,
1268
00:51:10,818 --> 00:51:14,488
as well as an antic,
silly comedy.
1269
00:51:14,530 --> 00:51:16,198
Our business
is a very tough business,
1270
00:51:16,282 --> 00:51:18,409
and once you gain
a reputation for something,
1271
00:51:18,492 --> 00:51:22,204
the public and the critics
stick a siphon into you,
1272
00:51:22,288 --> 00:51:24,665
and they say, "Give us that,
give us that."
1273
00:51:24,748 --> 00:51:26,166
They want nothing else,
1274
00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:28,460
and they'll drain that
until you're dead.
1275
00:51:28,544 --> 00:51:31,589
And I said, "There's more to me
than just being a zany comic."
1276
00:51:33,716 --> 00:51:35,342
{\an8}So, I created a company
called Brooksfilms.
1277
00:51:35,384 --> 00:51:38,637
The patient has been called
"The Elephant Man."
1278
00:51:38,721 --> 00:51:40,180
MEL:
When I read this wonderful story
1279
00:51:40,264 --> 00:51:41,807
of the Elephant Man,
1280
00:51:41,890 --> 00:51:43,892
I knew that under the banner
of Brooksfilms
1281
00:51:45,019 --> 00:51:46,353
I could make
1282
00:51:46,437 --> 00:51:48,397
this beautiful picture.
1283
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,941
(APPLAUSE)
1284
00:51:53,319 --> 00:51:54,903
{\an8}After I finished
1285
00:51:54,987 --> 00:51:57,364
{\an8}my first feature, Eraserhead...
1286
00:51:57,448 --> 00:51:59,742
{\an8}-♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
-(HEAD BOINGS)
1287
00:52:03,912 --> 00:52:08,125
{\an8}...I got a phone call from a guy
named Stuart Cornfeld.
1288
00:52:08,208 --> 00:52:09,376
And Stuart Cornfeld
1289
00:52:09,418 --> 00:52:11,128
worked for a man
named Mel Brooks.
1290
00:52:11,837 --> 00:52:14,048
And at that time,
1291
00:52:14,131 --> 00:52:16,634
I was getting married
to my second wife.
1292
00:52:18,177 --> 00:52:20,971
And my new mother-in-law...
1293
00:52:22,431 --> 00:52:25,434
uh, told my then-wife,
1294
00:52:26,268 --> 00:52:29,980
"David isn't working much.
1295
00:52:30,064 --> 00:52:33,942
Maybe it's time to light a fire
under this, you know, bozo
1296
00:52:34,026 --> 00:52:38,405
and get him to make some money,
right? And take care of you."
1297
00:52:38,489 --> 00:52:40,991
So, I called Stuart.
1298
00:52:42,368 --> 00:52:43,535
And I just wanted...
1299
00:52:43,619 --> 00:52:45,704
I don't know why,
I just took a chance.
1300
00:52:46,330 --> 00:52:48,123
I said, "Stuart,
1301
00:52:48,207 --> 00:52:50,376
do you know of any films
that I could direct?"
1302
00:52:51,585 --> 00:52:53,671
And he said, "The Elephant Man."
1303
00:52:54,713 --> 00:52:57,132
And a bomb went off in my head.
1304
00:52:58,133 --> 00:52:59,927
And this bomb
had been off in my head
1305
00:52:59,968 --> 00:53:01,762
a couple of times before
in my life,
1306
00:53:01,845 --> 00:53:03,430
but it's a huge thing.
1307
00:53:04,181 --> 00:53:06,684
From that millisecond on,
1308
00:53:06,767 --> 00:53:08,977
I said, "That's it,
that's what I wanna do."
1309
00:53:09,061 --> 00:53:10,771
But what happened was
1310
00:53:11,563 --> 00:53:13,440
they called me and said,
1311
00:53:13,524 --> 00:53:16,276
"Mel wants to see Eraserhead."
1312
00:53:16,318 --> 00:53:17,778
And I got the gist,
1313
00:53:17,820 --> 00:53:19,822
if he didn't like it, I was out.
1314
00:53:20,823 --> 00:53:21,782
And I said,
1315
00:53:21,824 --> 00:53:24,118
"Well, it's been great
knowing you guys."
1316
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:28,038
So, Mel set up a screening
at 20th Century Fox,
1317
00:53:28,122 --> 00:53:31,083
and the film ended,
and the doors blew open,
1318
00:53:31,166 --> 00:53:33,085
and Mel came rushing toward me.
1319
00:53:33,711 --> 00:53:36,130
He embraced me and said,
1320
00:53:36,171 --> 00:53:39,007
"You're a madman.
I love you. You're in."
1321
00:53:39,758 --> 00:53:41,760
And that was it.
1322
00:53:41,802 --> 00:53:43,804
INTERVIEWER:
Did you pick the director
for The Elephant Man?
1323
00:53:43,887 --> 00:53:45,222
MEL: Absolutely. I found him.
1324
00:53:45,305 --> 00:53:46,890
INTERVIEWER:
That was a stroke of genius.
1325
00:53:46,974 --> 00:53:48,851
MEL: There's a great deal
of beauty in him
1326
00:53:48,934 --> 00:53:49,977
and a great deal
1327
00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:51,395
of understanding
of the grotesque.
1328
00:53:51,478 --> 00:53:55,149
And he has great compassion
for the grotesque.
1329
00:53:55,232 --> 00:53:57,526
And I knew he would be
the perfect director.
1330
00:53:57,609 --> 00:53:59,486
(GASPING)
1331
00:53:59,528 --> 00:54:00,863
We've decided.
1332
00:54:02,030 --> 00:54:04,074
We're gonna get out of here,
all right?
1333
00:54:06,076 --> 00:54:07,327
Oh, Mr. Merrick,
1334
00:54:08,203 --> 00:54:09,913
you're not
an elephant man at all.
1335
00:54:11,081 --> 00:54:12,332
DAVID LYNCH: Anne Bancroft
1336
00:54:12,374 --> 00:54:14,168
was like working with royalty.
1337
00:54:14,209 --> 00:54:16,086
You're Romeo.
1338
00:54:16,170 --> 00:54:19,506
DAVID:
And Mel is a smart fellow.
1339
00:54:19,548 --> 00:54:22,301
He knows about human nature
1340
00:54:22,843 --> 00:54:24,052
so much.
1341
00:54:24,762 --> 00:54:26,680
And he's just...
1342
00:54:27,264 --> 00:54:28,390
Mel's got...
1343
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,102
a lot going on
in that mind of his.
1344
00:54:32,686 --> 00:54:34,646
He's real, real...
1345
00:54:35,647 --> 00:54:36,815
um, busy
1346
00:54:37,399 --> 00:54:39,902
and sees so much.
1347
00:54:40,903 --> 00:54:43,697
And, somehow,
1348
00:54:43,781 --> 00:54:46,825
he saw this in Eraserhead.
1349
00:54:46,909 --> 00:54:49,870
He's the perfect person
to see that film.
1350
00:54:49,953 --> 00:54:52,372
And it...
Now, it makes sense to me
1351
00:54:52,414 --> 00:54:54,583
that he liked it
and would pick me,
1352
00:54:54,666 --> 00:54:57,085
but it doesn't really make
any sense.
1353
00:54:57,169 --> 00:55:00,839
And Mel put me on the map
with that,
1354
00:55:00,923 --> 00:55:04,384
you know, offering me to direct
The Elephant Man,
1355
00:55:04,468 --> 00:55:07,221
and backing me up
all along the way.
1356
00:55:07,304 --> 00:55:09,473
I didn't have final cut
with Mel Brooks,
1357
00:55:09,556 --> 00:55:11,767
but in a sense,
I would say he gave it to me.
1358
00:55:11,850 --> 00:55:15,354
I am not an animal!
1359
00:55:17,606 --> 00:55:21,485
I am a human being.
1360
00:55:21,568 --> 00:55:25,364
{\an8}To me that's the most
selfless act of producing
1361
00:55:25,447 --> 00:55:27,074
{\an8}anybody's ever done.
1362
00:55:27,115 --> 00:55:28,283
The fact that Mel, you know,
1363
00:55:28,367 --> 00:55:31,578
said that if people see
"produced by Mel Brooks"
1364
00:55:31,662 --> 00:55:34,748
and The Elephant Man,
they're gonna expect a comedy.
1365
00:55:34,790 --> 00:55:36,416
And he wanted the movie
to stand alone.
1366
00:55:36,458 --> 00:55:38,752
And so he took his name off it.
And that's, I mean,
1367
00:55:38,836 --> 00:55:42,506
that's such an amazing thing
for a producer to do.
1368
00:55:42,589 --> 00:55:45,384
That is Mel sort of at his...
1369
00:55:45,467 --> 00:55:47,678
sort of financial
deal-making peak,
1370
00:55:47,761 --> 00:55:51,306
when he can pull strings
and make stuff happen.
1371
00:55:51,390 --> 00:55:52,933
And the fact
that he went to the mat
1372
00:55:52,975 --> 00:55:55,727
for this goofy kid out of AFI
1373
00:55:55,811 --> 00:55:58,438
-who had made a midnight movie.
-Yeah.
1374
00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:59,815
And basically,
going to the studio
1375
00:55:59,898 --> 00:56:01,275
saying, "I'm gonna back him.
1376
00:56:01,358 --> 00:56:02,276
And you can trust me,
1377
00:56:02,359 --> 00:56:03,777
the movie
won't spin out of control,
1378
00:56:03,861 --> 00:56:06,280
-but the kid is directing
this movie."
-Right.
1379
00:56:06,363 --> 00:56:08,323
It's astonishing,
and in black and white.
1380
00:56:08,407 --> 00:56:09,825
LARRY KARASZEWSKI:
In black and white, yeah.
1381
00:56:09,908 --> 00:56:12,286
I mean, wow. I mean,
that is awesome producing.
1382
00:56:12,327 --> 00:56:13,412
He's backing Cronenberg.
1383
00:56:14,997 --> 00:56:16,665
{\an8}No one ever
really thinks about that,
1384
00:56:16,748 --> 00:56:18,333
that we would
not have the careers
1385
00:56:18,417 --> 00:56:20,002
of David Cronenberg
and David Lynch
1386
00:56:20,085 --> 00:56:21,837
if it wasn't for Mel Brooks.
1387
00:56:23,005 --> 00:56:25,674
JUDD: The success rate
at Brooksfilms is crazy.
1388
00:56:25,757 --> 00:56:26,800
Please don't kill me.
1389
00:56:26,884 --> 00:56:28,468
JUDD: The Fly is a classic.
1390
00:56:28,510 --> 00:56:29,511
{\an8}Get your clothes on.
1391
00:56:29,595 --> 00:56:32,431
{\an8}-JUDD: He did Frances.
-You've got no right!
1392
00:56:32,514 --> 00:56:34,683
MEL:
Frances was a beautiful film.
1393
00:56:35,684 --> 00:56:37,311
{\an8}You know, 84 Charing Cross Road,
1394
00:56:37,352 --> 00:56:39,313
{\an8}and My Favorite Year.
1395
00:56:39,354 --> 00:56:41,148
{\an8}I am fat!
1396
00:56:41,189 --> 00:56:42,608
{\an8}MEL: And Anne's picture, Fatso.
1397
00:56:42,691 --> 00:56:44,860
Beautiful, really rich, deep,
1398
00:56:44,943 --> 00:56:46,653
-serious comedy.
-Fat! I am fat!
1399
00:56:46,695 --> 00:56:49,072
MEL: All of them had real merit.
1400
00:56:49,156 --> 00:56:51,992
JUDD: Were you super involved
or controlling,
1401
00:56:52,034 --> 00:56:53,619
or how were you as a producer?
1402
00:56:54,453 --> 00:56:56,663
Hands off until
1403
00:56:56,747 --> 00:56:58,999
I saw something
that I thought I could help,
1404
00:56:59,041 --> 00:57:00,417
then it was hands-on.
1405
00:57:01,209 --> 00:57:02,669
Brooksfilms is a company
1406
00:57:02,711 --> 00:57:04,671
that enables me
to bite off and chew things
1407
00:57:04,755 --> 00:57:06,340
that normally the critics
and the public
1408
00:57:06,423 --> 00:57:08,675
would not allow Mel Brooks
to do.
1409
00:57:08,759 --> 00:57:10,177
So, I feel
1410
00:57:10,218 --> 00:57:12,304
I'm doing a great service
to mankind
1411
00:57:12,387 --> 00:57:14,890
by bringing important ideas
1412
00:57:14,973 --> 00:57:17,851
in the form of great art
to the public.
1413
00:57:17,935 --> 00:57:21,521
And in return,
all I want is a lot of money.
1414
00:57:21,605 --> 00:57:23,190
He has this serious side.
1415
00:57:23,273 --> 00:57:26,401
He has this very deep
thinking side of him.
1416
00:57:26,485 --> 00:57:29,363
And I think,
like lots of creative people,
1417
00:57:29,404 --> 00:57:33,367
they're afraid to put that part
of themselves out there
1418
00:57:33,408 --> 00:57:35,786
because, "That's not the brand.
1419
00:57:35,869 --> 00:57:38,372
That's not what people
want from me.
1420
00:57:38,455 --> 00:57:41,833
But I can do it in things
like The Elephant Man
1421
00:57:41,917 --> 00:57:43,585
and Frances."
1422
00:57:43,669 --> 00:57:44,711
That's the way he found
1423
00:57:44,795 --> 00:57:46,421
to express himself
in a different way.
1424
00:57:50,008 --> 00:57:52,386
TERRY WOGAN: You are known
as the master of bad taste.
1425
00:57:52,469 --> 00:57:54,388
-Yes, I am, I am.
-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1426
00:57:54,429 --> 00:57:57,557
Is this justified,
or are you sorry now?
1427
00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:00,519
No, no, no, it's justified.
And I...
1428
00:58:00,602 --> 00:58:04,648
I am known
for my exquisitely bad taste.
1429
00:58:05,649 --> 00:58:07,067
In America, people say,
1430
00:58:07,109 --> 00:58:09,403
"Mr. Brooks,
you are in bad taste."
1431
00:58:09,444 --> 00:58:11,113
I say, "Up yours."
1432
00:58:11,196 --> 00:58:12,239
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1433
00:58:12,322 --> 00:58:14,074
You know, I've been watching
this show from the wings.
1434
00:58:14,157 --> 00:58:16,076
I'm not going to criticize it.
I love it.
1435
00:58:16,118 --> 00:58:18,412
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1436
00:58:18,453 --> 00:58:21,790
The cameras seem to have
some problems knowing when
1437
00:58:22,332 --> 00:58:23,583
you are going to speak
1438
00:58:23,667 --> 00:58:26,128
and when your guest
is going to speak.
1439
00:58:26,211 --> 00:58:28,088
So, it occurred to me
1440
00:58:28,130 --> 00:58:30,132
to warn them,
so that they don't come in
1441
00:58:30,215 --> 00:58:32,342
on a second syllable
or a second word.
1442
00:58:33,635 --> 00:58:35,929
If you say, "Ba-ba"
and then talk,
1443
00:58:35,971 --> 00:58:37,431
on the ba-ba,
they will cut to you.
1444
00:58:37,472 --> 00:58:38,515
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1445
00:58:38,598 --> 00:58:41,101
If I'm going to talk,
I will say, "Ba-ba"
1446
00:58:41,184 --> 00:58:42,602
and they will cut to me.
1447
00:58:42,686 --> 00:58:44,062
Of course, this is where you--
1448
00:58:44,104 --> 00:58:46,440
That's why you're a director
and producer,
1449
00:58:46,523 --> 00:58:48,650
and I'm just
a common or garden...
1450
00:58:48,734 --> 00:58:50,569
Ba-ba! I'll tell you, Terry...
1451
00:58:50,652 --> 00:58:51,945
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1452
00:58:52,029 --> 00:58:53,989
(APPLAUSE)
1453
00:58:54,072 --> 00:58:55,282
Ba-ba!
1454
00:58:55,323 --> 00:58:56,783
I hadn't finished.
1455
00:58:56,867 --> 00:58:59,119
-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
-(LAUGHS)
1456
00:59:00,912 --> 00:59:03,123
You know
what Jewish foreplay is?
1457
00:59:03,165 --> 00:59:04,583
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1458
00:59:04,666 --> 00:59:06,793
Let me tell you
what Jewish foreplay is.
1459
00:59:06,877 --> 00:59:08,295
-May I?
-TERRY: Please.
1460
00:59:08,378 --> 00:59:09,296
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1461
00:59:09,379 --> 00:59:10,964
Twenty minutes of begging.
1462
00:59:11,048 --> 00:59:12,799
-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
-TERRY: Ba-ba.
1463
00:59:14,217 --> 00:59:15,927
And yet you married an Italian.
1464
00:59:16,011 --> 00:59:17,304
Ba-ba, yes.
1465
00:59:17,345 --> 00:59:19,806
How did you lure this actress
into this kind of dross...
1466
00:59:19,848 --> 00:59:21,099
With a giant Jew magnet.
1467
00:59:21,183 --> 00:59:22,309
I said, "Come this way.
1468
00:59:22,350 --> 00:59:23,643
You're mine.
1469
00:59:23,685 --> 00:59:26,646
You're mine." Ba-ba, schmuck.
"You're mine."
1470
00:59:26,688 --> 00:59:29,316
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1471
00:59:29,357 --> 00:59:31,985
She adores me because I'm
the other side of her life.
1472
00:59:32,027 --> 00:59:33,570
I'm merriment. I'm fun.
1473
00:59:33,653 --> 00:59:34,696
I'm silly.
1474
00:59:34,780 --> 00:59:36,782
When are we going to see
that side of you?
1475
00:59:36,865 --> 00:59:38,533
-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
-(LAUGHS)
1476
00:59:38,617 --> 00:59:39,993
Yes, miss.
1477
00:59:40,035 --> 00:59:42,537
I've heard
that you're married to
1478
00:59:42,621 --> 00:59:44,664
the most beautiful woman
in the world.
1479
00:59:44,706 --> 00:59:45,999
Is that true, Mr. Brooks?
1480
00:59:46,083 --> 00:59:47,709
No,
I'm married to Anne Bancroft.
1481
00:59:47,793 --> 00:59:50,545
-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
-(APPLAUSE)
1482
00:59:51,797 --> 00:59:53,006
My beautiful wife.
1483
00:59:55,383 --> 00:59:56,676
Thank you.
1484
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,887
-In...
-(APPLAUSE)
1485
00:59:58,970 --> 01:00:00,555
We are starring together,
1486
01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:02,390
starring together
in a major motion picture
1487
01:00:02,474 --> 01:00:04,101
for the first time.
1488
01:00:04,184 --> 01:00:06,186
A motion picture called
To Be or Not to Be,
1489
01:00:06,228 --> 01:00:08,230
which should be
in your neighborhood theaters
1490
01:00:08,313 --> 01:00:09,564
in about an hour and a half.
1491
01:00:10,899 --> 01:00:11,942
Why don't we sing...
1492
01:00:12,025 --> 01:00:13,401
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1493
01:00:13,485 --> 01:00:15,112
...a little Polish for these--
1494
01:00:15,612 --> 01:00:16,696
Yes.
1495
01:00:16,780 --> 01:00:17,864
Let me get up there.
1496
01:00:17,906 --> 01:00:19,533
Come on, folks,
let's encourage her.
1497
01:00:19,574 --> 01:00:22,786
(APPLAUSE)
1498
01:00:27,582 --> 01:00:28,542
Yes.
1499
01:00:28,625 --> 01:00:30,001
-(ANNE SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY)
-Yeah.
1500
01:00:31,378 --> 01:00:32,712
Don't worry, don't worry,
you can do it.
1501
01:00:32,754 --> 01:00:33,755
ANNE: No, I can't.
1502
01:00:33,839 --> 01:00:36,216
I got cue cards.
What are you worried about?
1503
01:00:36,299 --> 01:00:39,553
Remember, it’s not so important,
just a TV show.
1504
01:00:39,594 --> 01:00:42,013
It doesn't have to be good,
they're not paying for this.
1505
01:00:42,097 --> 01:00:44,099
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1506
01:00:44,182 --> 01:00:45,725
♪ (LIVELY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1507
01:00:51,356 --> 01:00:54,359
♪ (SINGING IN POLISH) ♪
1508
01:00:54,442 --> 01:00:56,444
♪ Sweet Georgia Brown ♪
1509
01:00:56,528 --> 01:00:59,281
{\an8}♪ (SINGING IN POLISH) ♪
1510
01:00:59,364 --> 01:01:01,283
{\an8}♪ Sweet Georgia Brown ♪
1511
01:01:01,366 --> 01:01:02,868
{\an8}MEL:
For years, I had been looking
1512
01:01:02,951 --> 01:01:05,662
{\an8}for a vehicle
that would contain...
1513
01:01:05,745 --> 01:01:07,789
{\an8}Quick! Let's rehearse the scene.
1514
01:01:07,873 --> 01:01:09,082
{\an8}-...the majesty...
-Hail Hitler.
1515
01:01:09,124 --> 01:01:10,625
{\an8}Heil Hitler.
All right, I've got it.
1516
01:01:10,709 --> 01:01:12,127
...of my talent
1517
01:01:12,210 --> 01:01:14,754
with the tap-dancing ability
of my wife.
1518
01:01:14,796 --> 01:01:17,299
♪ (SINGING IN POLISH) ♪
1519
01:01:20,510 --> 01:01:22,596
Do we love each other?
Tell them. I mean...
1520
01:01:22,637 --> 01:01:24,681
Well, I mean, do you know
what it means anymore?
1521
01:01:24,764 --> 01:01:27,142
All we know, all we know is that
1522
01:01:27,225 --> 01:01:29,144
we are rafts in the ocean
1523
01:01:29,227 --> 01:01:31,271
and we swim to each other
and cling
1524
01:01:31,313 --> 01:01:34,608
because life is filled
with all kinds of fraught,
1525
01:01:34,649 --> 01:01:37,027
with all kinds of disaster
and certainly unhappiness.
1526
01:01:37,110 --> 01:01:38,945
And at least
we have each other to...
1527
01:01:38,987 --> 01:01:40,614
Look, as far as I'm concerned...
1528
01:01:40,697 --> 01:01:41,781
Is that how you feel?
1529
01:01:41,865 --> 01:01:43,408
Marriage is a retail store.
1530
01:01:43,450 --> 01:01:45,118
Somebody has to
watch the register.
1531
01:01:45,202 --> 01:01:46,244
(CHUCKLES)
1532
01:01:46,328 --> 01:01:48,580
And somebody has to get
the pretzels down for the kids.
1533
01:01:48,663 --> 01:01:51,791
I mean, it's hard. I mean,
look, life is very hard.
1534
01:01:51,875 --> 01:01:54,294
I think you need a partner
that you love and who loves you
1535
01:01:54,336 --> 01:01:55,462
to get through it.
1536
01:01:55,503 --> 01:01:57,923
INTERVIEWER: But you're content
to be with each other.
1537
01:01:58,506 --> 01:01:59,549
I'm more than content.
1538
01:01:59,633 --> 01:02:01,134
I mean, when he comes home
at night,
1539
01:02:01,218 --> 01:02:03,803
when that key goes
in the door, I mean,
my heart starts fluttering.
1540
01:02:03,887 --> 01:02:06,264
-I am so happy he's home.
-You're so nice.
1541
01:02:06,348 --> 01:02:08,141
-(CHUCKLES)
-You know, I mean,
1542
01:02:08,183 --> 01:02:11,019
it's like the party's
going to start, you know?
1543
01:02:11,102 --> 01:02:12,312
And I get my hat.
1544
01:02:12,354 --> 01:02:14,481
I get my party hat
from New York.
1545
01:02:14,522 --> 01:02:16,483
-(LAUGHS)
-I throw confetti, and I run in.
1546
01:02:16,566 --> 01:02:17,984
-(LAUGHS)
-(VOCALIZES)
1547
01:02:18,068 --> 01:02:19,361
And we dance all night.
1548
01:02:20,237 --> 01:02:22,614
MAX:
My parents always had a rule.
1549
01:02:22,697 --> 01:02:24,366
Never go to bed angry.
1550
01:02:24,908 --> 01:02:26,576
Get it all out.
1551
01:02:27,202 --> 01:02:29,663
So, they got it all out.
1552
01:02:29,746 --> 01:02:32,832
What happens if you have
a disagreement of some sort?
I've got to know.
1553
01:02:32,874 --> 01:02:34,376
She goes after me
with a half a scissor.
1554
01:02:34,459 --> 01:02:35,460
What do you mean?
1555
01:02:35,502 --> 01:02:36,711
INTERVIEWER:
With a half a scissor?
1556
01:02:36,795 --> 01:02:37,921
Yeah, you know, the Italians.
1557
01:02:38,004 --> 01:02:40,548
(SPEAKING ITALIAN)
1558
01:02:40,632 --> 01:02:43,176
Oh, yeah. What do you do?
You run?
1559
01:02:43,260 --> 01:02:45,845
-No, no, no. We sit and we talk.
-That's right.
1560
01:02:45,887 --> 01:02:47,013
We sit and we say,
1561
01:02:47,055 --> 01:02:48,556
"Darling,
if there's any problem,
1562
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,016
you know, let's talk it out."
1563
01:02:50,058 --> 01:02:51,393
And we talk
for about two minutes,
1564
01:02:51,476 --> 01:02:53,853
and then she goes...
(SPEAKING ITALIAN)
1565
01:02:53,895 --> 01:02:56,022
{\an8}They fought
about a lot of little things,
1566
01:02:56,106 --> 01:02:57,482
{\an8}a lot of big things.
1567
01:02:57,524 --> 01:02:59,317
{\an8}Sometimes she would just
yell at him,
1568
01:02:59,359 --> 01:03:01,027
{\an8}especially with his career,
1569
01:03:01,069 --> 01:03:03,196
because she was very much about
1570
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,865
making him do what she knew
he wanted to do.
1571
01:03:05,949 --> 01:03:07,993
My dad is a procrastinator.
1572
01:03:08,034 --> 01:03:10,328
And so my mother
was very clear about like,
1573
01:03:10,412 --> 01:03:12,664
"Mel, go write that."
1574
01:03:12,747 --> 01:03:14,082
I don't think I can do it.
1575
01:03:14,165 --> 01:03:15,875
I don't think
I can get away with it.
1576
01:03:15,917 --> 01:03:18,044
Yes, yes, yes, yes. You can.
You can.
1577
01:03:18,086 --> 01:03:20,255
You can, you can,
you can and you will.
1578
01:03:20,338 --> 01:03:22,924
You're a great actor.
You were born to do it.
1579
01:03:23,008 --> 01:03:25,885
You even look like Siletski.
Big nose, beady eyes.
1580
01:03:25,969 --> 01:03:27,887
You'll be a better Siletski
than Siletski.
1581
01:03:27,971 --> 01:03:29,431
I hope so. He's dead.
1582
01:03:29,514 --> 01:03:30,807
Beady eyes.
1583
01:03:30,890 --> 01:03:32,183
Sorry, sweetheart.
1584
01:03:34,728 --> 01:03:35,895
MEL: She's always pushed me.
1585
01:03:35,937 --> 01:03:37,230
She's always been
an inspiration.
1586
01:03:37,314 --> 01:03:38,398
She always thought
I was talented.
1587
01:03:38,481 --> 01:03:40,066
And she believed in me
right from the beginning,
1588
01:03:40,150 --> 01:03:41,735
whatever I wanted to do.
1589
01:03:41,776 --> 01:03:43,945
She said, you can do it.
1590
01:03:44,029 --> 01:03:46,948
MAX: When I was growing up,
that was at his height.
1591
01:03:47,032 --> 01:03:49,743
So, even though
I saw him constantly,
1592
01:03:49,784 --> 01:03:52,412
he was busy being Mel Brooks.
1593
01:03:52,454 --> 01:03:54,080
Hiya. Wie geht's?
1594
01:03:56,291 --> 01:03:57,917
This is my little cottage.
1595
01:03:58,001 --> 01:03:59,836
This is my bathtub.
1596
01:03:59,919 --> 01:04:01,463
It's a whirlpool bath.
1597
01:04:01,546 --> 01:04:03,131
It has 17 jets.
1598
01:04:03,214 --> 01:04:05,550
The jets of water hit you...
1599
01:04:05,633 --> 01:04:06,634
everywhere.
1600
01:04:06,718 --> 01:04:08,261
It's a pleasure. (LAUGHS)
1601
01:04:09,054 --> 01:04:10,472
Ah!
1602
01:04:10,555 --> 01:04:13,558
We are now in my son Max's room.
1603
01:04:13,641 --> 01:04:15,101
I have a son, Max.
1604
01:04:15,185 --> 01:04:17,479
He's 11 years old
and he needs a room.
1605
01:04:17,562 --> 01:04:18,605
Come here.
1606
01:04:18,646 --> 01:04:20,607
MAX: My dad had no idea
how to be a dad.
1607
01:04:20,648 --> 01:04:21,900
He can have all this space here.
1608
01:04:21,983 --> 01:04:23,109
MAX:
And was very honest about that.
1609
01:04:23,151 --> 01:04:25,445
We only made one small mistake.
1610
01:04:25,487 --> 01:04:27,614
We didn't build Max a toilet,
1611
01:04:27,697 --> 01:04:29,866
so he will have to go outside.
1612
01:04:29,949 --> 01:04:32,952
MAX: And my dad was very nervous
and very protective,
1613
01:04:33,036 --> 01:04:35,121
even in places
he had no right to be.
1614
01:04:35,205 --> 01:04:36,456
I'll never forget the phrase,
1615
01:04:36,539 --> 01:04:38,750
"What if I wake up tomorrow
and you're dead?"
1616
01:04:40,168 --> 01:04:43,213
This was when I wanted
to go camping in the backyard.
1617
01:04:43,296 --> 01:04:45,507
And we had to, like,
meet with the family shrink,
1618
01:04:45,590 --> 01:04:47,217
and the shrink
had to talk to my dad.
1619
01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:48,802
"Well, Mel, what do you think
would happen?"
1620
01:04:48,843 --> 01:04:50,303
"Well, I don't know.
How do I know?
1621
01:04:50,387 --> 01:04:53,306
What if I wake up tomorrow
and you're dead?"
1622
01:04:53,348 --> 01:04:57,143
So, yes,
there was always those fights.
1623
01:04:57,185 --> 01:04:58,895
And eventually I won
1624
01:04:58,978 --> 01:05:00,313
because I'm here
in my own house.
1625
01:05:01,439 --> 01:05:02,357
(BEEP)
1626
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:03,733
Flamethrowers!
1627
01:05:03,817 --> 01:05:05,068
(AIR HISSING)
1628
01:05:05,151 --> 01:05:06,319
Flamethrowers!
1629
01:05:06,361 --> 01:05:07,904
Yeah, now it works.
1630
01:05:08,863 --> 01:05:10,532
And last but not least...
1631
01:05:11,199 --> 01:05:12,367
dolls.
1632
01:05:12,450 --> 01:05:15,286
Here's a new one of me
and I talk.
1633
01:05:15,995 --> 01:05:17,497
Let's ride your bike.
1634
01:05:19,416 --> 01:05:20,875
Blow it out your ass.
1635
01:05:20,959 --> 01:05:22,001
(CAST LAUGHING)
1636
01:05:22,043 --> 01:05:23,336
Cut.
1637
01:05:23,420 --> 01:05:25,255
{\an8}♪ ("SPACEBALLS" THEME PLAYING) ♪
1638
01:05:32,470 --> 01:05:34,013
{\an8}Spaceballs?
1639
01:05:34,055 --> 01:05:35,265
Oh, shit.
1640
01:05:35,348 --> 01:05:36,808
There goes the planet.
1641
01:05:36,850 --> 01:05:39,936
I said I've satirized
almost every kind of--
1642
01:05:40,019 --> 01:05:42,063
but I have not done space.
1643
01:05:42,147 --> 01:05:44,566
If you're gonna do space,
you better do Star Wars.
1644
01:05:45,775 --> 01:05:47,819
(GASPS)
I can't breathe in this thing!
1645
01:05:48,486 --> 01:05:49,612
MEL: In Spaceballs,
1646
01:05:50,363 --> 01:05:51,698
we have used up the air.
1647
01:05:51,781 --> 01:05:54,117
There is no air left
on Planet Spaceball.
1648
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,411
Because of an ignorant
and foolish president.
1649
01:05:56,494 --> 01:05:59,706
-What's the combination?
-One, two, three, four, five.
1650
01:05:59,789 --> 01:06:02,083
-One, two, three, four, five?
-Yes.
1651
01:06:02,167 --> 01:06:04,419
That's amazing.
I've got the same combination
on my luggage.
1652
01:06:04,502 --> 01:06:05,962
He doesn't care
about the environment.
1653
01:06:06,045 --> 01:06:07,046
He doesn't care about people.
1654
01:06:07,088 --> 01:06:08,715
He doesn't care
about trade deficits.
1655
01:06:08,798 --> 01:06:10,550
He is just a good looking...
1656
01:06:10,633 --> 01:06:11,885
He's kind of an actor.
1657
01:06:11,926 --> 01:06:13,761
You know, he smiles a lot and...
1658
01:06:13,845 --> 01:06:17,599
But-- And that's the guy I'm--
I can't think of who I...
1659
01:06:17,682 --> 01:06:20,560
I am, you know,
modeling the role after.
1660
01:06:20,602 --> 01:06:21,603
I mean...
1661
01:06:21,686 --> 01:06:24,397
-President Skroob.
-What is it?
1662
01:06:24,481 --> 01:06:26,900
{\an8}ZIRCON: I have an urgent message
from Lord Helmet.
1663
01:06:26,941 --> 01:06:28,151
{\an8}He's lost the princess.
1664
01:06:28,234 --> 01:06:30,570
{\an8}-Where?
-Somewhere in the sands of Vega.
1665
01:06:30,612 --> 01:06:32,739
{\an8}Tell him to comb the desert,
do you hear me?
1666
01:06:32,822 --> 01:06:34,449
{\an8}Comb the desert!
1667
01:06:34,532 --> 01:06:35,533
Found anything yet?
1668
01:06:37,076 --> 01:06:38,411
Nothing yet, sir!
1669
01:06:40,705 --> 01:06:41,789
DARK HELMET: How about you?
1670
01:06:43,208 --> 01:06:44,417
Not a thing, sir.
1671
01:06:47,837 --> 01:06:49,464
DARK HELMET:
What about you guys?
1672
01:06:50,089 --> 01:06:51,925
We ain't found shit.
1673
01:06:52,008 --> 01:06:54,677
NARRATOR:
Another jab at movie clichés
1674
01:06:54,761 --> 01:06:56,429
from a 60-year-old actor,
1675
01:06:56,513 --> 01:06:58,932
writer, producer,
director, and comedian
1676
01:06:58,973 --> 01:07:00,308
by the name of Mel Brooks.
1677
01:07:00,391 --> 01:07:01,935
Helmet, what's going on?
1678
01:07:02,018 --> 01:07:03,645
Sandurz, what's going on?
1679
01:07:03,728 --> 01:07:04,812
It's Mega Maid.
1680
01:07:05,813 --> 01:07:08,274
-She's gone from suck to blow.
-(GASPS)
1681
01:07:08,358 --> 01:07:09,984
NARRATOR:
Spaceballs is another example
1682
01:07:10,068 --> 01:07:11,611
that with Brooks,
1683
01:07:11,653 --> 01:07:14,113
there are no sacred movie cows.
1684
01:07:14,197 --> 01:07:15,323
Stand up!
1685
01:07:15,865 --> 01:07:17,033
Captain, we've got them!
1686
01:07:19,118 --> 01:07:21,621
Spectacular stunt, my friends.
1687
01:07:21,663 --> 01:07:23,289
But all for naught.
1688
01:07:24,165 --> 01:07:25,458
Turn around, please.
1689
01:07:26,084 --> 01:07:27,168
So, princess,
1690
01:07:27,252 --> 01:07:28,628
you thought you could outwit
1691
01:07:28,711 --> 01:07:30,672
the imperious force of...
(GASPS)
1692
01:07:32,674 --> 01:07:34,050
You idiots!
1693
01:07:34,842 --> 01:07:36,010
These are not them!
1694
01:07:36,094 --> 01:07:38,805
You've captured
their stunt doubles!
1695
01:07:38,846 --> 01:07:40,932
INTERVIEWER:
You're parodying Star Wars,
1696
01:07:40,974 --> 01:07:43,810
and many of the characters
are very similar.
1697
01:07:43,893 --> 01:07:46,521
DARK HELMET: I see
your Schwartz is as big as mine.
1698
01:07:46,604 --> 01:07:49,148
So, you knew
George Lucas's lawyers
1699
01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:51,317
might even be able
to stop this movie.
1700
01:07:51,401 --> 01:07:52,819
You didn't want that, so...
1701
01:07:52,860 --> 01:07:55,655
Lucas liked me,
he liked my work,
1702
01:07:55,738 --> 01:07:58,324
and he said,
"Mel, the only thing
you can't do.
1703
01:07:58,366 --> 01:08:00,201
You can't do
the merchandising."
1704
01:08:00,285 --> 01:08:01,536
What is it that you do here?
1705
01:08:02,161 --> 01:08:03,329
Merchandising.
1706
01:08:03,413 --> 01:08:04,747
To this day, I haven't.
1707
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,418
But in case
there's another Spaceballs...
1708
01:08:09,961 --> 01:08:11,087
Who knows?
1709
01:08:11,170 --> 01:08:12,964
I mean, that's an old contract,
you know?
1710
01:08:13,047 --> 01:08:14,007
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1711
01:08:14,048 --> 01:08:15,216
YOGURT: Walk this way.
1712
01:08:15,300 --> 01:08:16,384
Take a look.
1713
01:08:16,467 --> 01:08:17,510
Merchandising,
1714
01:08:17,594 --> 01:08:19,012
merchandising.
1715
01:08:19,095 --> 01:08:21,848
Where the real money
from the movie is made.
1716
01:08:21,889 --> 01:08:23,725
Spaceballs the T-shirt.
1717
01:08:23,808 --> 01:08:25,518
Spaceballs the coloring book.
1718
01:08:25,602 --> 01:08:27,729
Spaceballs the lunchbox.
1719
01:08:27,812 --> 01:08:30,231
Spaceballs the breakfast cereal.
1720
01:08:30,315 --> 01:08:32,817
Spaceballs the flamethrower.
1721
01:08:32,900 --> 01:08:35,194
-(GASPING)
-The kids love this one.
1722
01:08:35,236 --> 01:08:38,781
{\an8}I was doing a play,
and Mel and, uh,
1723
01:08:40,074 --> 01:08:42,535
{\an8}Anne Bancroft
came to see the play
1724
01:08:42,577 --> 01:08:45,121
while they were considering me
for Spaceballs.
1725
01:08:45,204 --> 01:08:47,248
So, I had done one movie,
1726
01:08:47,332 --> 01:08:49,959
which was Ruthless People
in a small part.
1727
01:08:50,043 --> 01:08:53,087
He was... is quite bl--
you know, direct and everything.
1728
01:08:53,171 --> 01:08:55,882
He said, "You know what?
We tried to get a Tom.
1729
01:08:55,923 --> 01:08:58,426
We tried Tom Cruise
and Tom Hanks,
1730
01:08:58,509 --> 01:09:00,053
but instead we got a Bill."
1731
01:09:00,553 --> 01:09:01,929
(CHUCKLES)
1732
01:09:02,013 --> 01:09:03,389
♪ (ADVENTUROUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1733
01:09:03,473 --> 01:09:05,475
BILL PULLMAN: You know,
it was clear that John and Rick
1734
01:09:05,558 --> 01:09:07,226
had established careers,
1735
01:09:07,268 --> 01:09:09,896
and that they were
the money cast,
1736
01:09:09,937 --> 01:09:11,230
you know, the ones
1737
01:09:11,314 --> 01:09:13,733
that helped
make the movie happen.
1738
01:09:13,775 --> 01:09:16,736
At that point, there was a lot
of discussion, I remember,
1739
01:09:16,778 --> 01:09:18,738
about old comedy and new comedy,
1740
01:09:18,821 --> 01:09:21,282
and Rick and John
were new comedy,
1741
01:09:21,366 --> 01:09:23,034
and Mel was the old one.
1742
01:09:23,117 --> 01:09:25,912
He was able
to kind of include them,
1743
01:09:25,953 --> 01:09:29,457
and I remember Rick Moranis
working out a lot of business.
1744
01:09:29,540 --> 01:09:31,084
Now you are going to die!
1745
01:09:31,125 --> 01:09:32,251
Pfft. Oh!
1746
01:09:32,293 --> 01:09:33,586
Doing the dolls.
1747
01:09:33,670 --> 01:09:36,631
DARK HELMET:
(IMITATING PRINCESS VESPA)
Oh, your helmet is so big.
1748
01:09:36,714 --> 01:09:38,174
And John, too.
1749
01:09:38,257 --> 01:09:40,301
And that allowed us
to kind of improvise
1750
01:09:40,385 --> 01:09:41,928
{\an8}a lot of things that weren't...
1751
01:09:42,011 --> 01:09:43,179
{\an8}-Clapping!
-...planned.
1752
01:09:43,262 --> 01:09:44,263
{\an8}About to clap!
1753
01:09:44,347 --> 01:09:45,932
{\an8}BILL: You know,
like our little handshake.
1754
01:09:46,015 --> 01:09:49,602
(WAILING)
1755
01:09:49,686 --> 01:09:51,771
That was not, you know,
Mel's style,
1756
01:09:51,854 --> 01:09:55,441
but he was incorporating
John Candy's instincts.
1757
01:09:55,483 --> 01:09:57,151
Oh, you were the worst
on that take.
1758
01:09:57,235 --> 01:09:58,361
CREW: He always does that.
1759
01:09:58,444 --> 01:10:01,072
I don't know, Mel. You must not
have been directing as good.
1760
01:10:01,155 --> 01:10:03,324
DAPHNE ZUNIGA: That atmosphere,
1761
01:10:03,408 --> 01:10:05,827
{\an8}you sort of, like, by osmosis,
take in
1762
01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:07,370
{\an8}like, what would work,
what wouldn't
1763
01:10:07,453 --> 01:10:08,371
{\an8}for your character.
1764
01:10:08,454 --> 01:10:10,957
I'm not shooting this thing.
I hate guns.
1765
01:10:10,998 --> 01:10:12,625
DAPHNE: In the script,
I was just meant to say,
1766
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:15,211
"I hate guns," and then I escape
into the Winnebago.
1767
01:10:15,294 --> 01:10:16,379
Well, I was like,
1768
01:10:16,462 --> 01:10:19,006
"What if I say,
'Ew, I hate guns,'
1769
01:10:19,090 --> 01:10:21,509
and then they shoot my hair?"
1770
01:10:22,176 --> 01:10:23,428
He shot my hair!
1771
01:10:24,429 --> 01:10:26,055
Son of a bitch.
1772
01:10:26,139 --> 01:10:27,724
(RAY GUN POWERING ON)
1773
01:10:32,353 --> 01:10:34,564
Holy shit.
1774
01:10:34,647 --> 01:10:37,066
MEL: And action.
1775
01:10:37,150 --> 01:10:40,194
I am the writer, the director,
the producer, and the star.
1776
01:10:40,278 --> 01:10:41,988
Sometimes
I have a little problem.
1777
01:10:42,071 --> 01:10:43,156
INTERVIEWER: Why is that?
1778
01:10:43,197 --> 01:10:44,866
As the actor,
I ask for a little more money.
1779
01:10:44,949 --> 01:10:46,909
As the director, I say,
"What, are you crazy? You stink.
1780
01:10:46,993 --> 01:10:48,661
I'm not going to pay
that kind of money."
1781
01:10:48,745 --> 01:10:50,037
And as the actor, I say,
1782
01:10:50,121 --> 01:10:52,165
"I'm walking."
The director says, "Walk.
1783
01:10:52,248 --> 01:10:54,083
I don't have to take that junk
from you."
1784
01:10:54,167 --> 01:10:56,419
And we fight a little bit.
I send myself a dozen roses.
1785
01:10:56,502 --> 01:10:58,171
I make up.
I come back on the set.
1786
01:10:58,254 --> 01:11:00,840
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1787
01:11:00,923 --> 01:11:03,926
♪ ("SPACEBALLS" THEME PLAYING) ♪
1788
01:11:04,594 --> 01:11:05,887
MEL: Spaceballs went on
1789
01:11:05,970 --> 01:11:07,847
to become
one of the biggest hits
1790
01:11:07,930 --> 01:11:10,349
in the Mel Brooks
cinematic universe.
1791
01:11:10,433 --> 01:11:13,394
{\an8}I think I've autographed
more Spaceballs posters
1792
01:11:13,478 --> 01:11:15,938
{\an8}than for any other
Mel Brooks film.
1793
01:11:16,022 --> 01:11:17,565
{\an8}JUDD: That one's really...
1794
01:11:17,648 --> 01:11:19,400
turned into a big thing
over the years.
1795
01:11:19,484 --> 01:11:21,194
It seems like
it gets bigger every year.
1796
01:11:21,235 --> 01:11:22,862
I know.
1797
01:11:22,904 --> 01:11:24,697
You never know
what's gonna blossom
1798
01:11:24,739 --> 01:11:26,699
and spread its wings and fly.
1799
01:11:26,741 --> 01:11:28,534
Will we ever
see each other again?
1800
01:11:28,618 --> 01:11:29,911
Who knows?
1801
01:11:29,994 --> 01:11:31,579
God willing,
we'll all meet again
1802
01:11:31,662 --> 01:11:35,208
in Spaceballs II:
The Search for More Money.
1803
01:11:35,291 --> 01:11:37,376
MEL:
I'm still not ruling it out.
1804
01:11:37,418 --> 01:11:41,297
♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC
INTENSIFIES, CONCLUDES) ♪
1805
01:11:41,380 --> 01:11:43,382
LARRY KING: Is it harder
to do a Young Frankenstein
1806
01:11:43,424 --> 01:11:44,509
than an Elephant Man?
1807
01:11:44,592 --> 01:11:46,761
MEL: Yes, it is. Because
you've got to do the same thing.
1808
01:11:46,844 --> 01:11:48,471
The dramatic structure
is the same.
1809
01:11:48,554 --> 01:11:50,640
And then on top of that,
you have to make people laugh.
1810
01:11:50,723 --> 01:11:51,933
It's a lot easier
to make them cry
1811
01:11:52,016 --> 01:11:53,017
than to make them laugh.
1812
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:54,018
To make them cry,
1813
01:11:54,101 --> 01:11:55,603
what we gotta do
is step on their foot, hard.
1814
01:11:55,686 --> 01:11:56,896
And boy, they cry.
1815
01:11:56,938 --> 01:11:58,564
But making them laugh
is very hard
1816
01:11:58,648 --> 01:12:00,274
because it's at what moment
1817
01:12:00,358 --> 01:12:02,777
they will give themselves
to you.
1818
01:12:02,860 --> 01:12:04,445
What moment?
1819
01:12:04,529 --> 01:12:07,907
What is the critical moment
that the audience will abandon
1820
01:12:07,990 --> 01:12:10,785
its dignity
and its self-respect?
1821
01:12:15,873 --> 01:12:17,208
Young Frankenstein,
1822
01:12:17,959 --> 01:12:18,960
right on this street.
1823
01:12:21,671 --> 01:12:22,713
See?
1824
01:12:23,548 --> 01:12:26,092
Authorized personnel only.
1825
01:12:26,175 --> 01:12:28,928
I can go in here. They know me.
I am authorized.
1826
01:12:28,970 --> 01:12:31,264
I live at Fox. I work at Fox.
1827
01:12:31,347 --> 01:12:34,183
I'm very important at Fox.
Wait here.
1828
01:12:37,061 --> 01:12:38,229
(MEL SHOUTING INDISTINCTLY)
1829
01:12:38,312 --> 01:12:40,106
Fuck you... Don't tell me...
1830
01:12:40,147 --> 01:12:42,233
-(MEL SHOUTING INDISTINCTLY)
-(BANGING)
1831
01:12:43,234 --> 01:12:45,194
Fuck you. Never mind.
1832
01:12:45,278 --> 01:12:47,822
{\an8}When I did
The Tracey Ullman Show at Fox,
1833
01:12:47,905 --> 01:12:49,115
{\an8}he was on the lot.
1834
01:12:49,198 --> 01:12:51,117
Get off the fucking curb!
1835
01:12:51,158 --> 01:12:52,451
And he would come around
1836
01:12:52,535 --> 01:12:54,453
when you're eating
in the Fox commissary.
1837
01:12:54,495 --> 01:12:55,663
"Hey, how you doing?"
1838
01:12:55,746 --> 01:12:57,999
And he would come up to you
and just say something funny,
1839
01:12:58,082 --> 01:12:59,667
and then he'd go,
"Nice working your table."
1840
01:12:59,750 --> 01:13:02,420
(CACKLES) In the commissary,
we loved that.
1841
01:13:02,503 --> 01:13:04,255
We'd go,
"Oh, he's gonna work our table."
1842
01:13:04,338 --> 01:13:05,298
{\an8}Hey, Miranda.
1843
01:13:05,381 --> 01:13:07,174
{\an8}TRACEY ULLMAN:
He asked to be on my show
1844
01:13:07,258 --> 01:13:08,676
{\an8}when I started out.
1845
01:13:09,427 --> 01:13:10,970
-How do you do?
-How do you do?
1846
01:13:11,012 --> 01:13:13,097
I decided to be Kathleen Turner.
1847
01:13:13,931 --> 01:13:14,974
It's so hot.
1848
01:13:15,016 --> 01:13:17,143
Let me just say,
1849
01:13:17,184 --> 01:13:20,187
I have enormous misgivings
about your talent.
1850
01:13:20,271 --> 01:13:22,189
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1851
01:13:22,273 --> 01:13:24,108
TRACEY: It was almost like he
had a comedy tape measure.
1852
01:13:24,191 --> 01:13:26,694
He'd look at the distance
from the window to the chair.
1853
01:13:26,777 --> 01:13:30,573
If he had a prop, if he went,
"I want a chair that slips."
1854
01:13:30,656 --> 01:13:32,742
Miranda, I assure you, I--
1855
01:13:32,825 --> 01:13:33,743
(EXCLAIMS)
1856
01:13:33,826 --> 01:13:35,119
(EXCLAIMS)
1857
01:13:35,202 --> 01:13:36,954
And he would just have
things on his desk,
1858
01:13:37,038 --> 01:13:37,997
like he had a dog poop.
1859
01:13:38,039 --> 01:13:39,290
And I went, "Ugh!"
1860
01:13:39,332 --> 01:13:41,334
You know, as me. I went,
"Ugh, Mel, that's horrible."
1861
01:13:41,375 --> 01:13:42,877
He went,
"Don't knock a classic."
1862
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,504
{\an8}You can forget about my promise
to help you.
1863
01:13:45,546 --> 01:13:46,756
{\an8}No, wait, wait, wait...
1864
01:13:46,839 --> 01:13:48,341
{\an8}TRACEY:
So, when he asked me to be
1865
01:13:48,382 --> 01:13:50,009
in Robin Hood: Men in Tights,
1866
01:13:50,051 --> 01:13:51,844
I knew
I wanted to play the part,
1867
01:13:51,928 --> 01:13:53,763
because he showed me
a bit of the script,
1868
01:13:53,846 --> 01:13:56,432
-and he says...
-Such an unusual name, Latrine.
1869
01:13:56,515 --> 01:13:59,185
And then I say, "Oh, I used
to be called Shit House."
1870
01:13:59,226 --> 01:14:01,437
Yeah, used to be Shit House.
1871
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,148
(CHUCKLES)
It was a terrible big joke.
1872
01:14:04,231 --> 01:14:05,775
(CACKLING)
1873
01:14:05,858 --> 01:14:08,653
ALL: ♪ We're men
We're men in tights... ♪
1874
01:14:09,737 --> 01:14:11,906
"We roam around the forest
looking for fights..."
1875
01:14:13,115 --> 01:14:14,867
♪ We're men ♪
1876
01:14:14,909 --> 01:14:16,786
♪ We're men
In tights, tight tights ♪
1877
01:14:16,869 --> 01:14:18,412
GROUP: ♪ Always on guard ♪
1878
01:14:18,496 --> 01:14:20,414
♪ Defending
The people's rights ♪
1879
01:14:20,498 --> 01:14:22,208
♪ When you're in a fix ♪
1880
01:14:22,291 --> 01:14:24,377
♪ Just call
For the men in tights ♪
1881
01:14:24,418 --> 01:14:25,711
♪ We're butch! ♪
1882
01:14:25,753 --> 01:14:28,422
♪ We may look like pansies ♪
1883
01:14:28,506 --> 01:14:30,758
Yeah, I remember
I was embarrassed.
1884
01:14:30,841 --> 01:14:33,302
But also, it was so silly,
1885
01:14:33,970 --> 01:14:36,263
and Mel got a kick out of it,
1886
01:14:36,347 --> 01:14:38,766
which also made it more fun.
1887
01:14:38,849 --> 01:14:40,393
{\an8}We all grew up on Mel Brooks.
1888
01:14:40,434 --> 01:14:41,727
{\an8}That's no different in England.
1889
01:14:41,769 --> 01:14:43,688
{\an8}Yeah, everyone thinks it's
a uniquely American phenomenon,
1890
01:14:43,771 --> 01:14:46,107
{\an8}that Mel Brooks is not
a worldwide phenomenon.
1891
01:14:46,190 --> 01:14:47,650
He's a worldwide phenomenon.
1892
01:14:47,733 --> 01:14:50,736
You know, in England,
we were learning his movies,
1893
01:14:50,820 --> 01:14:53,406
and learning the dialogue,
and repeating it back,
1894
01:14:53,489 --> 01:14:54,740
just like Monty Python.
1895
01:14:54,824 --> 01:14:56,784
Mohel, he's
a very important guy.
1896
01:14:57,451 --> 01:14:59,453
He makes circumcisions.
1897
01:14:59,537 --> 01:15:01,956
What, pray tell, sir,
is a circumcision?
1898
01:15:02,039 --> 01:15:03,290
It's a snap.
1899
01:15:03,958 --> 01:15:05,292
I take my little machine...
1900
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,464
I take your little thing, see?
1901
01:15:10,548 --> 01:15:12,800
I put it
into this little hole here,
1902
01:15:12,883 --> 01:15:15,594
and... nip the tip.
1903
01:15:15,636 --> 01:15:16,929
(GROUP GASPING)
1904
01:15:17,013 --> 01:15:18,681
I remember my first take.
1905
01:15:18,764 --> 01:15:21,100
He comes up to me and he goes,
"Okay, that was good.
1906
01:15:21,183 --> 01:15:23,978
In this next take, suck less.
All right, let's try it again."
1907
01:15:24,061 --> 01:15:25,312
MEL: You're all quiet now.
1908
01:15:25,396 --> 01:15:27,106
CARY ELWES: And not much time
to learn archery.
1909
01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:28,315
Suddenly, Mel's like,
1910
01:15:28,399 --> 01:15:29,984
"Uh, we're gonna
do the bullseye next."
1911
01:15:30,067 --> 01:15:31,444
I went, "What? What?"
1912
01:15:31,527 --> 01:15:32,945
"Just remember, we have to break
for lunch,
1913
01:15:32,987 --> 01:15:34,238
so we have to get this quickly."
1914
01:15:34,321 --> 01:15:35,322
No pressure.
1915
01:15:35,406 --> 01:15:36,615
Goodbye.
1916
01:15:36,699 --> 01:15:37,992
CARY: I fire the first one,
1917
01:15:38,659 --> 01:15:40,202
misses the target altogether.
1918
01:15:40,286 --> 01:15:42,121
And Mel goes, "Cut, cut, okay.
1919
01:15:42,163 --> 01:15:43,539
Another one, just another one.
1920
01:15:43,622 --> 01:15:44,999
Just remember,
everybody's hungry.
1921
01:15:45,082 --> 01:15:46,459
Okay, let's go again."
1922
01:15:46,500 --> 01:15:47,960
I do the second one.
1923
01:15:48,002 --> 01:15:49,962
-That misses.
-(GROANS)
1924
01:15:50,046 --> 01:15:51,672
"I'm hungry."
1925
01:15:52,798 --> 01:15:54,550
-GROUP: Oh!
-CARY: Thank God
1926
01:15:54,633 --> 01:15:55,676
the third one
1927
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:56,719
landed in the bullseye,
1928
01:15:56,802 --> 01:15:58,429
and you can see the shock
1929
01:15:59,263 --> 01:16:00,347
on my face.
1930
01:16:00,431 --> 01:16:02,433
Hey, wait a minute, Robin,
you just said that you--
1931
01:16:02,516 --> 01:16:03,976
-MEL: Cool it.
-Chilled.
1932
01:16:05,519 --> 01:16:09,648
MEL: I need time in between.
Don't say "chilled" so fast.
1933
01:16:09,732 --> 01:16:10,691
Yes, yes, sir.
1934
01:16:10,775 --> 01:16:12,359
MEL: Okay.
And next, we pick it up.
1935
01:16:12,443 --> 01:16:14,653
DAVE CHAPPELLE:
When I was on set, I was 19.
1936
01:16:14,695 --> 01:16:16,906
Mel Brooks was
one of the first famous people
1937
01:16:16,989 --> 01:16:18,783
I ever spent time with.
1938
01:16:18,866 --> 01:16:20,659
And he was a good shepherd.
1939
01:16:20,743 --> 01:16:22,661
You know, like a lot of times,
while he was directing,
1940
01:16:22,745 --> 01:16:24,121
he'd be like, "Dave, come on,
have a seat."
1941
01:16:24,205 --> 01:16:25,539
And then he would just
do the takes.
1942
01:16:25,623 --> 01:16:26,832
This was on scenes
that I wasn't in.
1943
01:16:26,916 --> 01:16:29,668
But I didn't realize the gift
that he was giving me.
1944
01:16:29,710 --> 01:16:32,129
He was letting me
watch him cook.
1945
01:16:32,213 --> 01:16:34,507
We didn't land
on Sherwood Forest.
1946
01:16:34,590 --> 01:16:37,176
Sherwood Forest landed on us.
1947
01:16:37,218 --> 01:16:38,552
CROWD: Yeah!
1948
01:16:38,636 --> 01:16:39,845
DAVE:
You know, sometimes,
1949
01:16:39,887 --> 01:16:40,888
he'd take me to lunch,
1950
01:16:40,971 --> 01:16:42,473
and his old friend, Carl Reiner,
1951
01:16:42,556 --> 01:16:44,850
was directing a movie
on the next soundstage.
1952
01:16:44,934 --> 01:16:48,896
And then at some point,
and he knew that I'd be like...
1953
01:16:48,979 --> 01:16:52,191
The two of them started doing
The 2000 Year Old Man.
1954
01:16:52,233 --> 01:16:55,736
The greatest comic routine
by two of the greatest comics,
1955
01:16:55,820 --> 01:16:57,947
and me as the audience.
1956
01:16:58,030 --> 01:16:59,615
I'll never forget it.
1957
01:17:00,407 --> 01:17:01,909
And then I met his wife.
1958
01:17:01,992 --> 01:17:03,035
She comes, and she says,
1959
01:17:03,077 --> 01:17:05,204
"Oh, Mel says so many
wonderful things about you."
1960
01:17:05,287 --> 01:17:08,582
She goes on and on and gushes
about how much he likes me.
1961
01:17:08,666 --> 01:17:09,750
And then I go,
1962
01:17:09,834 --> 01:17:11,752
"You're not trying to seduce me,
are you, Mrs. Robinson?"
1963
01:17:11,836 --> 01:17:14,880
And not thinking that she's
heard that joke a million times,
1964
01:17:14,964 --> 01:17:16,590
nothing, silence.
1965
01:17:16,674 --> 01:17:18,509
And all you could hear was...
(CHUCKLES)
1966
01:17:18,592 --> 01:17:20,594
Dom DeLuise's labored breath.
1967
01:17:20,678 --> 01:17:22,555
(WHEEZES)
1968
01:17:22,638 --> 01:17:26,058
That was really fucking terrible
and hilarious.
1969
01:17:26,142 --> 01:17:28,060
A new sheriff of Rottingham.
1970
01:17:28,102 --> 01:17:30,271
CROWD: A Black sheriff?
1971
01:17:30,896 --> 01:17:32,481
And why not?
1972
01:17:32,565 --> 01:17:34,233
It worked in Blazing Saddles.
1973
01:17:34,316 --> 01:17:35,901
CROWD: Oh, yeah.
1974
01:17:36,610 --> 01:17:38,195
This is wonderful.
1975
01:17:38,279 --> 01:17:39,238
(GROUP LAUGHS)
1976
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:40,739
L'chaim and cut.
1977
01:17:40,823 --> 01:17:42,491
♪ (MELANCHOLIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1978
01:17:42,575 --> 01:17:43,784
-INTERVIEWER: You're back.
-MEL: Yeah.
1979
01:17:43,868 --> 01:17:45,744
INTERVIEWER: Where did you go?
Did you slump? Did you--
1980
01:17:45,786 --> 01:17:47,496
MEL: No, no, no!
What I tried to do is
1981
01:17:47,580 --> 01:17:50,416
I tried to marry Brooksfilms
with Mel Brooks.
1982
01:17:50,499 --> 01:17:53,419
{\an8}JUDD: Life Stinks,
what made you write that?
1983
01:17:53,460 --> 01:17:57,423
{\an8}MEL: Nobody had done a movie
about homelessness.
1984
01:17:57,464 --> 01:17:59,341
Look out, sailor.
1985
01:17:59,425 --> 01:18:00,926
Well, there goes
the neighborhood.
1986
01:18:01,010 --> 01:18:02,094
(OVERLAPPING CHATTER)
1987
01:18:02,136 --> 01:18:04,013
MEL: I said
if I could show their plight
1988
01:18:04,096 --> 01:18:05,514
and make it funny...
1989
01:18:06,307 --> 01:18:07,433
Yeah, that better?
1990
01:18:07,474 --> 01:18:09,560
...maybe the message
would get through.
1991
01:18:10,352 --> 01:18:12,104
It didn't get through.
1992
01:18:12,188 --> 01:18:15,065
And I made one giant mistake.
1993
01:18:16,025 --> 01:18:18,611
The title, Life Stinks.
1994
01:18:18,694 --> 01:18:21,071
I should have said,
"Please, don't come."
1995
01:18:21,697 --> 01:18:22,948
Silly, stupid.
1996
01:18:22,990 --> 01:18:24,742
INTERVIEWER: Do you then
put more pressure on yourself?
1997
01:18:24,825 --> 01:18:25,826
MEL: Yes, of course.
1998
01:18:25,910 --> 01:18:27,453
{\an8}INTERVIEWER: So, when you
were doing Robin Hood,
1999
01:18:27,494 --> 01:18:29,747
{\an8}were you saying to yourself,
"It's gotta be good.
It's gotta be good?"
2000
01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:31,290
{\an8}"Gotta make it, gotta make it,
gotta make it."
2001
01:18:31,332 --> 01:18:33,375
Come on over, you look
like Donald Trump tonight.
2002
01:18:33,459 --> 01:18:35,127
Things haven't been good, John.
2003
01:18:35,169 --> 01:18:37,254
-What are you do--
-Things have not been good.
2004
01:18:37,338 --> 01:18:38,255
I'm telling you,
2005
01:18:38,339 --> 01:18:40,299
-I'm very unhappy.
-(JOHNNY LAUGHS)
2006
01:18:40,341 --> 01:18:42,426
I'm very unhappy
ever since Spaceballs.
2007
01:18:42,509 --> 01:18:43,636
I mean...
2008
01:18:43,677 --> 01:18:46,555
-(JOHNNY LAUGHS)
-(AUDIENCCE LAUGHING)
2009
01:18:47,681 --> 01:18:49,099
MAX: His career plateaued.
2010
01:18:49,850 --> 01:18:52,144
But my dad
never stopped fighting.
2011
01:18:52,186 --> 01:18:53,896
Whenever he'd get a bad review,
2012
01:18:53,979 --> 01:18:57,024
whenever movies didn't do
as well as he wanted,
2013
01:18:57,107 --> 01:18:59,026
he was always thinking,
"I'll show 'em.
2014
01:18:59,109 --> 01:19:00,152
I'll show 'em next time,
2015
01:19:00,236 --> 01:19:01,862
or I'll find a way
to make this a hit."
2016
01:19:01,946 --> 01:19:02,947
{\an8}Wait!
2017
01:19:06,992 --> 01:19:08,035
Now!
2018
01:19:13,540 --> 01:19:15,167
Oh, my...
2019
01:19:15,834 --> 01:19:16,877
God!
2020
01:19:18,045 --> 01:19:20,089
MAX: My father would never
tell me about his bad days.
2021
01:19:20,172 --> 01:19:21,840
He never liked to dwell.
2022
01:19:21,924 --> 01:19:23,634
So, my mother
would always be there
2023
01:19:23,717 --> 01:19:25,427
to explain
why he was in a bad mood,
2024
01:19:25,511 --> 01:19:26,679
and it wasn't my fault,
2025
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,347
it wasn't anything
I said or did.
2026
01:19:28,389 --> 01:19:29,515
She would say, "Listen,
2027
01:19:29,556 --> 01:19:32,643
he just went into a meeting
to try to get a movie sold,
2028
01:19:32,726 --> 01:19:35,312
and there's a new studio head
who is younger than him
2029
01:19:35,396 --> 01:19:37,481
and doesn't respect him
and doesn't know him."
2030
01:19:39,275 --> 01:19:41,151
But people
were still pushing him
2031
01:19:41,777 --> 01:19:43,445
to do something.
2032
01:19:46,031 --> 01:19:47,533
I've got something
I want you to see.
2033
01:19:47,574 --> 01:19:48,701
What? Oh, no!
2034
01:19:48,784 --> 01:19:50,411
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
2035
01:19:50,911 --> 01:19:52,204
This is a contract.
2036
01:19:52,871 --> 01:19:54,123
It's for The Producers.
2037
01:19:54,206 --> 01:19:56,583
We're taking it to Broadway,
and I want...
2038
01:19:56,667 --> 01:19:58,377
(AUDIENCE CHEERING,
APPLAUDING)
2039
01:19:58,419 --> 01:20:00,963
{\an8}NATHAN LANE:
♪ I wanna be a producer ♪
2040
01:20:01,046 --> 01:20:03,716
♪ With a hit show
On Broadway... ♪
2041
01:20:03,799 --> 01:20:05,384
NARRATOR:
It's the hottest ticket in town
2042
01:20:05,426 --> 01:20:06,427
with an all-star cast
2043
01:20:06,510 --> 01:20:07,886
starring Tony winners
2044
01:20:07,928 --> 01:20:09,930
Nathan Lane
and Matthew Broderick.
2045
01:20:10,014 --> 01:20:11,890
Brooks wrote
the music and lyrics
2046
01:20:11,932 --> 01:20:14,435
based on his 1968
cult classic film.
2047
01:20:14,518 --> 01:20:16,729
Let's hear it for Mel Brooks,
folks.
2048
01:20:16,812 --> 01:20:19,398
(CHEERING)
2049
01:20:19,440 --> 01:20:21,900
{\an8}NATHAN:
♪ I wanna be a producer... ♪
2050
01:20:21,984 --> 01:20:24,236
WOMAN: So, is anybody waiting
to see Mel Brooks?
2051
01:20:24,278 --> 01:20:27,323
CROWD: We want Mel! We want Mel!
2052
01:20:29,408 --> 01:20:31,744
It sounds like a sure thing
in a way now,
2053
01:20:31,827 --> 01:20:32,786
but I think at the time,
2054
01:20:32,870 --> 01:20:35,539
{\an8}nobody was sure
it was gonna work out
2055
01:20:35,581 --> 01:20:37,583
{\an8}-making a stage version...
-NATHAN: Right.
2056
01:20:37,666 --> 01:20:39,251
...of this beloved thing.
2057
01:20:39,293 --> 01:20:40,544
{\an8}Matthew said
2058
01:20:40,627 --> 01:20:42,713
{\an8}that we came off stage
after the first show
2059
01:20:42,755 --> 01:20:45,090
and he said, "Well,
they even liked the bad stuff."
2060
01:20:45,132 --> 01:20:47,968
♪ I'm gonna be a producer... ♪
2061
01:20:48,052 --> 01:20:49,011
MEL: Thank you.
2062
01:20:49,094 --> 01:20:50,637
These people have no taste
at all.
2063
01:20:50,721 --> 01:20:52,139
(LAUGHTER)
2064
01:20:52,222 --> 01:20:54,558
(SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY)
Aren't you happy?
2065
01:20:54,641 --> 01:20:56,185
-Look how happy they are.
-Hello.
2066
01:20:56,268 --> 01:20:57,561
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
2067
01:20:57,644 --> 01:20:59,772
♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
2068
01:20:59,813 --> 01:21:02,066
MEL:
My uncle Joe was a cab driver.
2069
01:21:03,150 --> 01:21:04,443
And one day, he came to me
2070
01:21:04,526 --> 01:21:07,279
and said, "Melvin, listen,
I got two tickets
2071
01:21:07,363 --> 01:21:09,615
to the matinee of Anything Goes
2072
01:21:09,698 --> 01:21:12,951
with William Gaxton
and Ethel Merman."
2073
01:21:12,993 --> 01:21:15,204
-♪ ("YOU'RE THE TOP"
BY ETHEL MERMAN PLAYING) ♪
-I'm nine years old,
2074
01:21:15,287 --> 01:21:17,373
and I'm listening
2075
01:21:18,165 --> 01:21:19,875
to just the overture,
2076
01:21:19,958 --> 01:21:21,126
it's fantastic.
2077
01:21:21,168 --> 01:21:24,254
Ethel Merman comes out
and sings,
2078
01:21:24,338 --> 01:21:26,298
"You're the top,
you're the top."
2079
01:21:26,382 --> 01:21:28,967
And we're about
three miles away,
2080
01:21:29,051 --> 01:21:30,302
she's still too loud.
2081
01:21:30,386 --> 01:21:31,720
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
2082
01:21:31,804 --> 01:21:33,806
ETHEL MERMAN:
♪ You're the top... ♪
2083
01:21:35,349 --> 01:21:37,434
MEL:
When I left the theater, I said,
2084
01:21:37,476 --> 01:21:40,687
"Uncle Joe, I'm gonna write
a Broadway show."
2085
01:21:41,730 --> 01:21:43,774
And 60 years later,
2086
01:21:43,857 --> 01:21:46,568
here we have
The Producers on Broadway
2087
01:21:46,652 --> 01:21:47,861
with an entire score...
2088
01:21:47,945 --> 01:21:49,154
♪ (GLISSANDO PLAYING ON PIANO) ♪
2089
01:21:49,238 --> 01:21:50,239
...by Mel Brooks.
2090
01:21:50,322 --> 01:21:53,325
♪ Oh, it's bad luck
To say "good luck" ♪
2091
01:21:53,367 --> 01:21:56,328
♪ On opening night if you do ♪
2092
01:21:56,412 --> 01:21:58,539
You're serious,
this is the way you write?
2093
01:21:58,622 --> 01:22:00,249
I write into a tape recorder.
2094
01:22:00,332 --> 01:22:02,126
NARRATOR:
And into his tape recorder,
2095
01:22:02,167 --> 01:22:05,254
he has sung the music and lyrics
to some 16 new songs,
2096
01:22:05,337 --> 01:22:07,840
and along with his collaborator,
Tom Meehan,
2097
01:22:07,881 --> 01:22:10,050
{\an8}he's written the script
for the show.
2098
01:22:10,134 --> 01:22:12,344
{\an8}Last December,
in a Broadway rehearsal hall,
2099
01:22:12,386 --> 01:22:14,930
the cast and crew gathered
for the first time.
2100
01:22:15,013 --> 01:22:16,557
MATTHEW BRODERICK:
Matthew Broderick, Leo Bloom.
2101
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,058
Nathan Lane, Max.
2102
01:22:18,142 --> 01:22:20,352
Mel Brooks, Jew extraordinaire.
2103
01:22:20,436 --> 01:22:21,478
(CAST LAUGHING)
2104
01:22:21,562 --> 01:22:24,231
{\an8}I got the call
about meeting him.
2105
01:22:24,314 --> 01:22:26,400
{\an8}I didn't really know
what it was about.
2106
01:22:26,483 --> 01:22:28,193
And there was a knock
on the door,
2107
01:22:28,277 --> 01:22:29,528
and I opened the door,
2108
01:22:29,611 --> 01:22:31,738
but instead of saying "hello,"
2109
01:22:32,364 --> 01:22:34,491
Mel launched into a song.
2110
01:22:34,533 --> 01:22:38,078
♪ That face, that face
That fabulous face ♪
2111
01:22:38,162 --> 01:22:40,038
And he walked right past me,
2112
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:41,707
down my hallway,
2113
01:22:41,790 --> 01:22:44,585
into my living room,
singing that song full out,
2114
01:22:44,668 --> 01:22:46,587
ends up on top of the sofa,
2115
01:22:46,670 --> 01:22:49,214
looks down at me and says,
"Hello, I'm Mel Brooks."
2116
01:22:49,298 --> 01:22:51,884
Is it "Wanna be a producer,"
or, "I'm gonna be"?
2117
01:22:51,967 --> 01:22:54,178
MATTHEW: I think it's
"wanna be a" there.
I'm never sure.
2118
01:22:54,219 --> 01:22:56,346
It should be "Wanna be" there,
because it's everything I'm not.
2119
01:22:56,430 --> 01:22:58,265
SUSAN STROMAN:
Let's do "wanna" there.
I think we might...
2120
01:22:58,348 --> 01:22:59,558
{\an8}♪ I wanna be... ♪
2121
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,769
{\an8}SUSAN: My husband and I,
they came to us as a team first,
2122
01:23:03,729 --> 01:23:06,273
{\an8}but soon after they came to us,
2123
01:23:06,356 --> 01:23:08,984
Mike was diagnosed
with leukemia,
2124
01:23:09,526 --> 01:23:10,611
and...
2125
01:23:11,987 --> 01:23:13,614
we thought he would get over it,
2126
01:23:13,697 --> 01:23:15,449
we thought
he would get through it.
2127
01:23:15,532 --> 01:23:18,076
But after he was diagnosed,
2128
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,413
he passed about 18 months later.
2129
01:23:22,581 --> 01:23:25,000
We had worked on the show,
but then it stopped.
2130
01:23:25,959 --> 01:23:28,712
Two months after Mike passed,
2131
01:23:28,795 --> 01:23:31,131
Mel and Tom came to my door.
2132
01:23:32,007 --> 01:23:33,133
Mel said,
2133
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:35,260
"You've got to do this."
2134
01:23:35,302 --> 01:23:36,553
He said,
2135
01:23:36,637 --> 01:23:37,846
"You have to do this.
2136
01:23:38,639 --> 01:23:39,640
You will...
2137
01:23:40,390 --> 01:23:41,767
cry in the morning,
2138
01:23:41,808 --> 01:23:43,936
and you will cry at night,
2139
01:23:44,019 --> 01:23:48,607
but in between, you will laugh,
and I will make you laugh.
2140
01:23:48,649 --> 01:23:50,400
That's why
you have to do this."
2141
01:23:51,693 --> 01:23:54,821
So, uh, after he said that, I...
2142
01:23:55,572 --> 01:23:57,950
I said yes, and we were off.
2143
01:23:58,033 --> 01:24:01,620
Stop. Keep your feet still.
And then we'll go ahead.
2144
01:24:01,662 --> 01:24:03,622
And he was right.
2145
01:24:03,664 --> 01:24:05,499
I would cry in the morning
and cry at night,
2146
01:24:05,582 --> 01:24:07,960
but from 10:00 to 06:00
in that rehearsal room,
2147
01:24:08,001 --> 01:24:09,336
I would laugh
2148
01:24:09,419 --> 01:24:10,504
with Mel Brooks,
2149
01:24:10,587 --> 01:24:12,130
and the funniest cast
on Broadway.
2150
01:24:12,214 --> 01:24:14,633
MEL: In between takes,
Matthew likes to work out.
2151
01:24:14,716 --> 01:24:15,759
(CAST LAUGHING)
2152
01:24:15,842 --> 01:24:17,094
SUSAN:
And it ended up saving me.
2153
01:24:18,053 --> 01:24:19,096
Totally saving me.
2154
01:24:21,098 --> 01:24:23,684
♪ I used to be the king ♪
2155
01:24:23,767 --> 01:24:24,935
♪ The king! ♪
2156
01:24:25,018 --> 01:24:27,688
♪ The king of old Broadway ♪
2157
01:24:27,771 --> 01:24:28,981
It's good to be the king.
2158
01:24:29,064 --> 01:24:30,649
NATHAN: ♪ My praises... ♪
2159
01:24:30,732 --> 01:24:33,193
MAX: The best moment
of his career, for me,
2160
01:24:33,277 --> 01:24:35,153
on the sidelines,
2161
01:24:35,237 --> 01:24:38,156
was watching him
do The Producers.
2162
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:42,202
It reminded me of the Mel Brooks
that my mother told me about
2163
01:24:42,286 --> 01:24:44,204
when she first met him,
2164
01:24:44,288 --> 01:24:45,789
the guy who was just excited
2165
01:24:45,831 --> 01:24:47,833
to create something
from nothing.
2166
01:24:47,874 --> 01:24:50,836
It was the first time in my life
I saw Mel Brooks, the artist.
2167
01:24:50,877 --> 01:24:53,505
ALL: ♪ We believe each word
We've heard ♪
2168
01:24:53,547 --> 01:24:57,676
♪ There was a time
When I was young and gay ♪
2169
01:24:57,718 --> 01:24:58,677
♪ But straight... ♪
2170
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,178
I was able to have
2171
01:25:00,262 --> 01:25:02,472
a third-row seat
to The Producers,
2172
01:25:03,515 --> 01:25:05,267
and it changed my life.
2173
01:25:07,060 --> 01:25:09,354
It showed me the potential
2174
01:25:09,396 --> 01:25:11,273
of what musical comedy
could be again.
2175
01:25:11,356 --> 01:25:15,360
NATHAN: ♪ I touched
Would turn to gold... ♪
2176
01:25:15,444 --> 01:25:19,489
JOSH: Without The Producers,
Book of Mormon doesn't exist.
2177
01:25:19,573 --> 01:25:23,201
It was built on the back of,
2178
01:25:23,285 --> 01:25:27,539
once again, Mel Brooks
taking a sledgehammer
2179
01:25:27,623 --> 01:25:31,752
to what we understood
musical comedy theater to be,
2180
01:25:31,835 --> 01:25:34,880
and showing us a whole new way.
2181
01:25:34,921 --> 01:25:37,215
NATHAN: ♪ That's the time
To stand up on your two feet ♪
2182
01:25:37,257 --> 01:25:38,383
♪ And shout ♪
2183
01:25:38,467 --> 01:25:41,094
♪ Who do you have to fuck
To get a break in this town? ♪
2184
01:25:41,178 --> 01:25:42,721
CROWD: Yeah!
2185
01:25:42,763 --> 01:25:45,432
JUDD: Was that more fun
than everything you ever did?
2186
01:25:45,515 --> 01:25:47,851
MEL: It was downright thrilling.
Thrilling.
2187
01:25:49,269 --> 01:25:50,937
JUDD:
Isn't it just months and months
2188
01:25:51,021 --> 01:25:52,564
of rewrites and previews, and...
2189
01:25:53,190 --> 01:25:54,274
Yeah, well,
2190
01:25:54,358 --> 01:25:56,818
I'm very talented.
2191
01:25:56,902 --> 01:25:58,904
When you got
a talented guy like me,
2192
01:25:58,987 --> 01:26:00,656
you don't need many rewrites.
2193
01:26:01,948 --> 01:26:04,910
The true payment is never money.
2194
01:26:04,951 --> 01:26:08,413
It's the joy of seeing your show
on the stage,
2195
01:26:08,455 --> 01:26:10,874
and having people laugh and cry
and applaud.
2196
01:26:10,957 --> 01:26:13,585
I mean, there's no greater
payment in the world.
2197
01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:14,753
And I realized
2198
01:26:14,836 --> 01:26:16,421
that my true passion,
2199
01:26:16,505 --> 01:26:17,798
the reason
I got into show business
2200
01:26:17,881 --> 01:26:19,383
was for that.
2201
01:26:21,176 --> 01:26:25,764
♪ Bialystock will be on top ♪
2202
01:26:25,806 --> 01:26:27,599
-♪ Again ♪
-♪ Fame is in his sights again ♪
2203
01:26:27,641 --> 01:26:29,267
♪ He'll take
Those fancy flights again ♪
2204
01:26:29,309 --> 01:26:30,560
♪ He's gonna
Scale the heights again ♪
2205
01:26:30,602 --> 01:26:33,230
-♪ I'll be on top again, hey! ♪
-♪ I'll be on top again, hey! ♪
2206
01:26:33,271 --> 01:26:36,149
By the way, The Producers won
a few awards.
2207
01:26:36,817 --> 01:26:39,403
It actually has 12 Tonys.
2208
01:26:40,529 --> 01:26:45,242
Still more than any other
Broadway show ever.
2209
01:26:45,325 --> 01:26:46,618
JUDD: Hamilton got close.
2210
01:26:46,660 --> 01:26:47,911
Eleven. Scared me.
2211
01:26:47,994 --> 01:26:49,121
{\an8}(JUDD CHUCKLES)
2212
01:26:49,204 --> 01:26:50,288
{\an8}MEL: The other night,
2213
01:26:50,372 --> 01:26:53,125
{\an8}I sang at the karaoke club,
and then you got up.
2214
01:26:53,208 --> 01:26:54,376
Yeah, he was-- Right.
2215
01:26:54,459 --> 01:26:57,462
MEL: And the audience went
pretty wild for me.
2216
01:26:57,546 --> 01:26:59,798
And then you sang "Swanee,"
2217
01:26:59,881 --> 01:27:01,591
and they went crazy.
2218
01:27:02,300 --> 01:27:04,761
I want you, Larry David,
2219
01:27:04,803 --> 01:27:08,223
to be the next Max Bialystock
on Broadway.
2220
01:27:10,517 --> 01:27:12,561
{\an8}MEL: After we laughed...
Thank God.
2221
01:27:12,644 --> 01:27:13,645
{\an8}Thank God what?
2222
01:27:13,729 --> 01:27:15,647
Thank God
this show is coming to an end.
2223
01:27:15,689 --> 01:27:17,941
-This show is coming to an end.
-Oh, God, yes, right.
2224
01:27:19,943 --> 01:27:21,403
-Oh, honey.
-What?
2225
01:27:21,486 --> 01:27:23,196
-ANNE: Stick that hair up.
-Oh.
2226
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,115
-(CREW LAUGHING)
-CREW 1: Here we go.
2227
01:27:25,198 --> 01:27:27,743
-Is it there? Still there?
-ANNE: No, it's gone.
2228
01:27:27,826 --> 01:27:29,828
-CREW 2: Ready?
-CREW 3: Ready.
2229
01:27:29,911 --> 01:27:31,621
-(MEL CHUCKLES)
-CREW 1: Action.
2230
01:27:32,330 --> 01:27:35,375
(MEL AND ANNE LAUGHING)
2231
01:27:35,459 --> 01:27:37,335
Did you see
the look on their faces?
2232
01:27:37,377 --> 01:27:38,503
(LAUGHING)
2233
01:27:38,545 --> 01:27:41,131
When Larry David
forgot every line, he...
2234
01:27:41,173 --> 01:27:43,842
-(ANNE LAUGHS LOUDLY)
-...he went up in smoke.
2235
01:27:43,884 --> 01:27:45,010
Oh my...
2236
01:27:45,093 --> 01:27:48,513
Thank God. Thank God
this show is gonna be over.
2237
01:27:48,597 --> 01:27:50,348
Thank God. Oh, God.
2238
01:27:50,390 --> 01:27:51,683
CHARLIE: You and Mr. Brooks
2239
01:27:51,767 --> 01:27:55,187
have one
of the great relationships.
2240
01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:56,354
Oh!
2241
01:27:56,438 --> 01:27:58,356
CHARLIE: You had-- No one's ever
mentioned this to you?
2242
01:27:58,440 --> 01:27:59,900
-No.
-CHARLIE:
That there is this assumption?
2243
01:27:59,983 --> 01:28:01,526
-Let me tell you something.
-CHARLIE: All right.
2244
01:28:01,568 --> 01:28:02,861
-You know what magic is?
-CHARLIE: What?
2245
01:28:02,944 --> 01:28:04,237
-Hard work.
-CHARLIE: It is?
2246
01:28:04,321 --> 01:28:05,363
That's what magic is.
2247
01:28:05,405 --> 01:28:06,990
Yeah, it's hard work.
2248
01:28:07,032 --> 01:28:08,825
We'll be able to sleep in,
you and me together, babe,
2249
01:28:08,909 --> 01:28:10,827
-like it used to be.
-Yes. Yes.
2250
01:28:10,911 --> 01:28:12,913
-Without calls late at night.
-Oh, God.
2251
01:28:12,996 --> 01:28:14,539
-(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY)
-(ANNE LAUGHS)
2252
01:28:14,581 --> 01:28:16,208
ANNE: You have to be aware,
2253
01:28:16,291 --> 01:28:19,711
and you have to want to say,
"How are you?"
2254
01:28:19,795 --> 01:28:21,004
And really wanna listen
2255
01:28:21,087 --> 01:28:22,297
to what he's got to say.
2256
01:28:22,380 --> 01:28:24,800
You can't just say,
"How are you?" (HUMMING)
2257
01:28:24,883 --> 01:28:26,593
You know, and go off
and do something else
2258
01:28:26,676 --> 01:28:28,762
-while he's telling you.
-CHARLIE: Yeah, right.
2259
01:28:28,845 --> 01:28:30,722
You really have to care,
and you have to be interested.
2260
01:28:30,764 --> 01:28:34,100
And I think I am.
I'm very interested in him.
2261
01:28:34,184 --> 01:28:37,479
And he's...
I hope, very interested in me.
2262
01:28:37,562 --> 01:28:38,730
The marriage itself,
2263
01:28:38,814 --> 01:28:40,398
people would have bet
against it.
2264
01:28:40,482 --> 01:28:41,483
-Right.
-Jewish lunatic.
2265
01:28:41,566 --> 01:28:42,567
-Yeah, right.
-Right?
2266
01:28:42,609 --> 01:28:45,403
An Italian tempestuous woman
who's a great--
2267
01:28:45,445 --> 01:28:46,947
-Absolutely.
-LARRY KING: Great actress.
2268
01:28:47,030 --> 01:28:48,448
-Right.
-But it's worked.
2269
01:28:48,532 --> 01:28:50,325
-MEL: It's worked for--
-What's the secret?
2270
01:28:50,408 --> 01:28:52,869
MEL: We fight, we yell
at each other, we get it out.
2271
01:28:52,953 --> 01:28:54,579
We never go to bed angry.
2272
01:28:54,621 --> 01:28:55,789
And we love each other.
2273
01:28:55,872 --> 01:28:57,582
She's the greatest woman
that ever lived.
2274
01:28:57,666 --> 01:28:59,960
Here's to the death
of The Producers.
2275
01:29:00,043 --> 01:29:01,586
-To the death!
-Thank you, Larry David.
2276
01:29:01,628 --> 01:29:02,879
(CHUCKLES)
2277
01:29:05,382 --> 01:29:06,883
-(SIGHS)
-(EXHALES DEEPLY)
2278
01:29:07,634 --> 01:29:10,804
(BOTH LAUGHING)
2279
01:29:11,721 --> 01:29:13,056
(ANNE LAUGHING)
2280
01:29:14,724 --> 01:29:16,059
ADAM: I was in a movie
2281
01:29:16,142 --> 01:29:18,603
that Anne Bancroft was in,
Spanglish.
2282
01:29:18,687 --> 01:29:21,815
I got to know her, rehearsed,
did lots of rehearsal,
2283
01:29:21,898 --> 01:29:24,150
and then lots of shooting.
2284
01:29:24,234 --> 01:29:26,278
And she knew Mel.
2285
01:29:26,361 --> 01:29:27,779
There was something extra
about that.
2286
01:29:27,863 --> 01:29:29,781
It's like, "You get
to hang out with Mel every day,
2287
01:29:29,823 --> 01:29:30,949
and he loves you?"
2288
01:29:31,032 --> 01:29:32,367
And, "Wow, man."
2289
01:29:32,450 --> 01:29:34,870
JUDD: It gives us hope,
a woman like that loves Mel?
2290
01:29:34,953 --> 01:29:36,121
Yes.
2291
01:29:36,204 --> 01:29:38,456
Yeah, he opened the door
for all of us ugly guys,
2292
01:29:38,540 --> 01:29:39,541
especially you.
2293
01:29:39,624 --> 01:29:40,750
(JUDD AND ADAM LAUGH)
2294
01:29:43,003 --> 01:29:44,796
ADAM: But then Anne got sick.
2295
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,632
And, um, Cloris Leachman
ended up
2296
01:29:47,716 --> 01:29:49,801
taking over for her part.
2297
01:29:49,885 --> 01:29:52,304
And that was devastating.
2298
01:29:52,345 --> 01:29:53,680
JUDD:
She didn't know she was sick
2299
01:29:53,763 --> 01:29:54,806
when you guys started?
2300
01:29:54,848 --> 01:29:55,974
Started, everything's fine,
2301
01:29:56,016 --> 01:29:57,934
and then something
over the weekend,
2302
01:29:58,018 --> 01:29:59,185
had some tests and stuff,
2303
01:29:59,269 --> 01:30:01,813
and then that was-- It was...
2304
01:30:03,356 --> 01:30:05,150
better for her
not to be there anymore,
2305
01:30:05,191 --> 01:30:07,027
and just be home
with the family.
2306
01:30:09,613 --> 01:30:11,364
MAX: She had had cancer.
2307
01:30:11,865 --> 01:30:12,866
She beat it.
2308
01:30:13,617 --> 01:30:14,659
It came back.
2309
01:30:15,911 --> 01:30:17,871
It was a slow, horrible,
lingering time,
2310
01:30:17,954 --> 01:30:19,873
and anybody
who's ever lost a loved one
2311
01:30:19,956 --> 01:30:22,375
to cancer knows exactly what
I'm talking about.
2312
01:30:22,459 --> 01:30:24,419
The peaks, the valleys,
the false hopes,
2313
01:30:24,502 --> 01:30:25,879
the waiting for tests,
2314
01:30:25,962 --> 01:30:27,422
the horrible despair
2315
01:30:27,505 --> 01:30:29,674
when your tests come back,
and two things lit up.
2316
01:30:29,758 --> 01:30:30,717
That's what my dad...
2317
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:32,177
That's the phrase
he always repeats.
2318
01:30:32,218 --> 01:30:33,511
Two things lit up
2319
01:30:33,595 --> 01:30:36,514
when they were talking
about one of her scans.
2320
01:30:38,391 --> 01:30:39,601
"We got a bad break."
2321
01:30:40,477 --> 01:30:41,853
And that's how he refers to it.
2322
01:30:41,895 --> 01:30:43,396
"We got a bad break."
2323
01:30:51,029 --> 01:30:52,530
EDDIE BROOKS:
Oh, all the light went out.
2324
01:30:52,614 --> 01:30:55,700
I mean,
he was not in a good place.
2325
01:30:58,703 --> 01:31:01,706
{\an8}You know, we just...
we never dreamed that
2326
01:31:01,748 --> 01:31:04,709
{\an8}Anne would either get sick,
2327
01:31:04,793 --> 01:31:07,420
and ultimately pass away, and...
2328
01:31:08,672 --> 01:31:10,131
he just worshipped her.
2329
01:31:11,341 --> 01:31:13,385
She was incredibly supportive
2330
01:31:13,426 --> 01:31:16,721
of these chances
that he was taking,
2331
01:31:16,763 --> 01:31:19,307
and she was the one to say,
2332
01:31:19,391 --> 01:31:21,977
"I believe in it,
and I believe in you.
2333
01:31:22,060 --> 01:31:23,979
Of course
you can write the songs.
2334
01:31:24,771 --> 01:31:26,564
You're a songwriter."
2335
01:31:26,606 --> 01:31:29,150
And he'd be like, "Oh, yeah,
I am a songwriter."
2336
01:31:30,610 --> 01:31:32,737
And so, if it came from her,
2337
01:31:32,821 --> 01:31:36,032
then it was like the Gospel.
"Okay, I can do it."
2338
01:31:37,075 --> 01:31:39,244
♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
2339
01:31:39,911 --> 01:31:41,454
She was his best friend.
2340
01:31:42,414 --> 01:31:44,582
It was the two of them
against the world.
2341
01:31:46,292 --> 01:31:49,295
My dad was the water,
my mother was the glass.
2342
01:31:50,463 --> 01:31:51,715
And when the glass shattered,
2343
01:31:51,756 --> 01:31:53,800
I was worried the water
was gonna go everywhere.
2344
01:31:59,389 --> 01:32:01,057
NATHAN:
There was a memorial for her.
2345
01:32:03,309 --> 01:32:06,021
People spoke very movingly
about her.
2346
01:32:07,939 --> 01:32:09,274
And he came out, and he said,
2347
01:32:09,357 --> 01:32:11,067
"Thank you very much
for being here."
2348
01:32:11,151 --> 01:32:12,110
He said, "It was...
2349
01:32:12,152 --> 01:32:13,611
she would have
really loved this."
2350
01:32:13,653 --> 01:32:17,615
And he said,
"Some people spoke beautifully.
2351
01:32:17,699 --> 01:32:19,617
Some people talked
a little too long."
2352
01:32:19,701 --> 01:32:21,703
(BOTH CHUCKLING)
2353
01:32:21,786 --> 01:32:22,871
And he said...
2354
01:32:24,247 --> 01:32:25,457
"Do me a favor.
2355
01:32:25,498 --> 01:32:26,833
If you see me...
2356
01:32:27,500 --> 01:32:29,586
uh...
2357
01:32:29,669 --> 01:32:33,923
don't come up and tell me...
don't cry and don't tell me,
2358
01:32:34,966 --> 01:32:37,302
uh, how terrible
you feel because...
2359
01:32:38,386 --> 01:32:40,346
I have enough fucking tears
of my own."
2360
01:32:44,184 --> 01:32:45,185
{\an8}Hello.
2361
01:32:45,268 --> 01:32:46,311
{\an8}MEL: Okay.
2362
01:32:46,394 --> 01:32:48,188
JERRY SEINFELD: You're ready
for Jeopardy, I can see.
2363
01:32:48,271 --> 01:32:50,482
{\an8}ALEX TREBEK: (OVER TV)
We're gonna take a break.
2364
01:32:50,565 --> 01:32:52,150
{\an8}-CARL: Did you bring food?
-JERRY: I did.
2365
01:32:52,233 --> 01:32:53,651
-Look who's here, Mel.
-Hi, Mel.
2366
01:32:53,735 --> 01:32:55,487
-What did you bring? Come on.
-JERRY: I don't know.
2367
01:32:55,528 --> 01:32:56,696
Relay.
2368
01:32:56,780 --> 01:33:00,158
They know Jews are eating it,
so they give you extra napkins.
2369
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:01,534
-And look...
-MEL: Is that true?
2370
01:33:01,618 --> 01:33:02,827
JERRY: Hey, look at this.
2371
01:33:02,869 --> 01:33:04,829
There's Mel on the cover
of the DGA Quarterly.
2372
01:33:04,913 --> 01:33:06,748
Ah, see, I put it there thinking
you might--
2373
01:33:06,831 --> 01:33:08,458
What a great shot.
You gotta love that.
2374
01:33:08,541 --> 01:33:10,752
MEL:
I have never been recognized
2375
01:33:10,835 --> 01:33:14,130
by the DGA, or by Hollywood
as being a director.
2376
01:33:14,214 --> 01:33:17,342
I'm always recognized
as a comic,
2377
01:33:17,425 --> 01:33:20,678
as a producer,
as an entrepreneur,
2378
01:33:20,762 --> 01:33:22,013
as a pain in the ass.
2379
01:33:22,055 --> 01:33:24,432
I have never been, ever,
2380
01:33:24,516 --> 01:33:25,850
recognized as director.
2381
01:33:25,934 --> 01:33:28,228
They finally came...
have come to their senses,
2382
01:33:28,311 --> 01:33:31,231
and realized I've directed
a couple of dozen movies.
2383
01:33:31,314 --> 01:33:33,024
-JERRY: Yeah.
-So, maybe I'm a director too.
2384
01:33:33,108 --> 01:33:35,318
JERRY: Does it mean anything
at this point or screw them?
2385
01:33:35,401 --> 01:33:37,946
I can get a job. I can get a job
as a director out of that.
2386
01:33:38,029 --> 01:33:39,239
Where's the mustard?
2387
01:33:40,406 --> 01:33:42,033
I don't see any mustard.
2388
01:33:42,075 --> 01:33:44,744
SARAH: Mel lost his wife,
and then Carl lost his wife,
2389
01:33:44,828 --> 01:33:46,204
and every night,
2390
01:33:46,246 --> 01:33:49,916
they spent together at Carl's
in his little living room
2391
01:33:49,999 --> 01:33:52,377
with TV trays, eating dinner,
2392
01:33:52,460 --> 01:33:54,337
and watching a different movie
every night.
2393
01:33:54,379 --> 01:33:57,048
I just love
that kind of friendship.
2394
01:33:57,132 --> 01:34:01,094
Hitler had that mustache
because he admired Chaplin.
2395
01:34:01,177 --> 01:34:04,055
-Is that possible?
-Oh, yeah, Chaplin had it first.
2396
01:34:04,097 --> 01:34:06,516
I would say that statement
is utter nonsense.
2397
01:34:06,599 --> 01:34:07,642
SARAH:
When people go, like,
2398
01:34:07,725 --> 01:34:09,602
"Where do you see yourself
in five years and ten years?
2399
01:34:09,686 --> 01:34:10,728
What's your goal?"
2400
01:34:10,770 --> 01:34:14,023
I wanna be able to have
that kind of community
2401
01:34:14,107 --> 01:34:16,526
with comics that they had
with each other.
2402
01:34:16,568 --> 01:34:18,987
Mel, tell me about this ritual
a little bit,
2403
01:34:19,070 --> 01:34:21,531
because I have to say,
just personally,
2404
01:34:21,614 --> 01:34:25,285
I find it fascinating
and comforting
2405
01:34:25,994 --> 01:34:28,580
that you have this routine.
2406
01:34:28,621 --> 01:34:29,789
I think men
2407
01:34:29,873 --> 01:34:32,292
are very comforted
by their routines.
2408
01:34:33,668 --> 01:34:35,253
Especially their bowels.
2409
01:34:35,295 --> 01:34:36,421
Yeah. (CHUCKLES)
2410
01:34:36,462 --> 01:34:38,756
We always used to go
to Carl's house, right?
2411
01:34:38,798 --> 01:34:42,343
And they'd just fall asleep,
but never at the same time.
2412
01:34:43,136 --> 01:34:44,637
So, one would fall asleep,
2413
01:34:44,721 --> 01:34:46,472
and then the other one
would go...
2414
01:34:48,308 --> 01:34:49,517
-(MEL SNORING)
-Jesus Christ.
2415
01:34:50,685 --> 01:34:52,854
-(MEL SNORING)
-(JERRY CHUCKLES)
2416
01:34:52,937 --> 01:34:53,938
Then they'd fall asleep,
2417
01:34:53,980 --> 01:34:55,398
the other one would wake up,
and go...
2418
01:34:55,481 --> 01:34:56,733
(MEL SNORING)
2419
01:34:58,109 --> 01:34:59,611
-All right, well...
-Okay.
2420
01:34:59,652 --> 01:35:03,781
{\an8}It was a little invasive
on my part to ask,
2421
01:35:03,865 --> 01:35:07,744
{\an8}but what a great thing
that that exists, you know?
2422
01:35:07,827 --> 01:35:09,662
You get to see what they did,
2423
01:35:10,496 --> 01:35:13,333
where a lifetime
of gigantic achievements
2424
01:35:13,416 --> 01:35:15,084
leads you.
2425
01:35:15,168 --> 01:35:18,963
A living room
with deli sandwiches,
2426
01:35:19,005 --> 01:35:20,340
watching Wheel of Fortune.
2427
01:35:20,423 --> 01:35:22,342
That's where you get
2428
01:35:22,425 --> 01:35:25,595
if you succeed
in every possible way in life.
2429
01:35:25,678 --> 01:35:26,888
Okay, turn it off already.
2430
01:35:26,971 --> 01:35:28,348
-CARL: Turn it off.
-(LAUGHS)
2431
01:35:28,431 --> 01:35:30,808
We're following him out.
Come on, Carl, let's get...
2432
01:35:30,892 --> 01:35:33,311
CARL: He's got a good--
Mel, did you see his green car?
2433
01:35:33,353 --> 01:35:35,855
♪ I've been away from you
A long time ♪
2434
01:35:35,939 --> 01:35:37,023
♪ I never thought ♪
2435
01:35:37,106 --> 01:35:39,317
♪ Somehow I feel
Your love is real near you ♪
2436
01:35:39,359 --> 01:35:40,610
♪ Is it really? ♪
2437
01:35:40,693 --> 01:35:42,153
♪ I wanna be... ♪
2438
01:35:42,195 --> 01:35:43,529
JERRY: Let's go, everybody out.
2439
01:35:43,613 --> 01:35:44,656
MEL: No, no, no, wait.
2440
01:35:44,739 --> 01:35:46,407
CARL: Well, we have to
sing L'chaim first.
2441
01:35:46,491 --> 01:35:48,201
♪ L’chaim! L'chaim! ♪
2442
01:35:48,284 --> 01:35:51,329
Jerry, what's the difference
between a Jew and a Frenchman?
2443
01:35:51,412 --> 01:35:54,082
A Frenchman leaves
without saying goodbye.
2444
01:35:54,165 --> 01:35:56,000
-JERRY: Yeah.
-CARL: And a Jew...
2445
01:35:56,084 --> 01:35:58,628
-Says goodbye and never leaves.
-JERRY: Says goodbye and...
2446
01:35:58,711 --> 01:35:59,837
JERRY: (CHUCKLES) That's great.
2447
01:35:59,879 --> 01:36:01,631
MEL:
Carl, where did you hear that?
2448
01:36:01,673 --> 01:36:03,967
JERRY: That was great.
Did you ever hear that joke?
2449
01:36:04,050 --> 01:36:05,385
CARL:
Mel, we have to watch Jeopardy.
2450
01:36:05,468 --> 01:36:06,511
MEL: Okay.
2451
01:36:08,263 --> 01:36:10,640
CARL: That was a perfect ending.
2452
01:36:10,723 --> 01:36:12,517
There was no question
that he's gonna--
2453
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,478
Whatever he decides to do,
when he decides to do,
2454
01:36:15,561 --> 01:36:16,646
it's gonna work,
2455
01:36:16,729 --> 01:36:19,482
because there was a,
what I call,
2456
01:36:19,565 --> 01:36:21,901
he hates the word,
is a genius mind at work.
2457
01:36:21,985 --> 01:36:24,529
And I use the word "genius"
not lightly.
2458
01:36:24,570 --> 01:36:25,863
I understand the word.
2459
01:36:25,947 --> 01:36:28,032
Genius has to
not only produce
2460
01:36:28,574 --> 01:36:30,034
something really good,
2461
01:36:30,118 --> 01:36:31,869
but a volume of it.
2462
01:36:31,911 --> 01:36:34,080
And Mel, look at the volume
he's produced.
2463
01:36:34,163 --> 01:36:36,374
Goodnight, everybody.
Wonderful working with you.
2464
01:36:36,457 --> 01:36:37,917
CARL:
And if somebody wants to argue,
2465
01:36:38,001 --> 01:36:39,377
they can, but they won't win.
2466
01:36:39,460 --> 01:36:41,045
Sooner or later,
you've gotta stop.
2467
01:36:41,129 --> 01:36:43,339
And you know what?
It's like an addiction.
2468
01:36:47,635 --> 01:36:49,470
ROB:
Mel was there when my dad died.
2469
01:36:51,347 --> 01:36:52,724
My dad was in the bathroom,
2470
01:36:52,765 --> 01:36:55,101
and he just collapsed
in the bathroom.
2471
01:36:55,184 --> 01:36:58,438
And Mel came back and realized,
"Uh-oh, something's wrong."
2472
01:36:58,521 --> 01:37:00,315
And my dad died, like,
2473
01:37:01,107 --> 01:37:02,233
right after that.
2474
01:37:03,192 --> 01:37:05,945
For months, months, months,
2475
01:37:06,029 --> 01:37:07,989
he would come to the house
2476
01:37:08,823 --> 01:37:10,533
after my father died.
2477
01:37:10,616 --> 01:37:12,327
He would come to the house,
2478
01:37:12,410 --> 01:37:16,039
sit there, watch television,
and have dinner.
2479
01:37:16,122 --> 01:37:17,915
And he did that for months.
2480
01:37:17,957 --> 01:37:20,126
And he told us, the family,
he said,
2481
01:37:20,209 --> 01:37:21,169
"You don't-- Let me know
2482
01:37:21,252 --> 01:37:22,628
when you're gonna
sell the house."
2483
01:37:22,712 --> 01:37:25,423
I mean, you know, at some point
we're gonna sell the house.
2484
01:37:25,506 --> 01:37:27,425
And I said, "Yeah, yeah."
And then I said,
2485
01:37:27,467 --> 01:37:30,386
"Well, maybe it's better
you just...
2486
01:37:30,470 --> 01:37:33,598
you know, we'll stage the house
with you in it, you know?
2487
01:37:33,681 --> 01:37:35,016
Maybe it'll up the value.
2488
01:37:35,099 --> 01:37:37,727
You know, you get-- Mel Brooks
is sitting here, you can..."
2489
01:37:37,769 --> 01:37:40,563
But he was that close to my dad
where he kept--
2490
01:37:40,646 --> 01:37:44,025
He wanted to be close to him
even when my dad was gone.
2491
01:37:44,984 --> 01:37:47,653
You were with Carl
in his final moments.
2492
01:37:47,737 --> 01:37:49,614
That's a beautiful thing
for Carl, isn't it?
2493
01:37:49,655 --> 01:37:51,741
I was still hoping
that they would,
2494
01:37:51,824 --> 01:37:53,159
you know, put the stuff on him,
2495
01:37:53,242 --> 01:37:55,328
-and boom, you know, and...
-JUDD: Yeah.
2496
01:37:55,411 --> 01:37:56,496
...get him up.
2497
01:37:57,413 --> 01:37:58,998
And I kept...
2498
01:37:59,082 --> 01:38:01,793
I kept yelling at them,
"Keep it up, keep it up."
2499
01:38:01,876 --> 01:38:03,211
And they thought I was crazy
2500
01:38:03,294 --> 01:38:06,214
after an hour
of yelling at them,
2501
01:38:06,297 --> 01:38:08,007
"Keep it up.
Keep that machine on him.
2502
01:38:08,091 --> 01:38:09,092
Keep it up."
2503
01:38:09,175 --> 01:38:10,176
I wouldn't--
2504
01:38:10,259 --> 01:38:11,886
-I just didn't want him to go.
-JUDD: Yeah.
2505
01:38:11,969 --> 01:38:14,597
I just couldn't--
Well, I wouldn't accept it.
2506
01:38:16,432 --> 01:38:17,725
I loved him so much.
2507
01:38:23,731 --> 01:38:25,191
INTERVIEWER:
You said a lovely thing once,
2508
01:38:25,274 --> 01:38:27,276
"Comedy
is the opposite of death."
2509
01:38:28,194 --> 01:38:29,362
What did you mean by that?
2510
01:38:29,445 --> 01:38:33,699
Well, when you're dead,
you're very... it's very quiet.
2511
01:38:34,242 --> 01:38:35,660
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
2512
01:38:35,701 --> 01:38:39,455
It's very-- You can hardly--
You never go anywhere, you know?
2513
01:38:39,539 --> 01:38:41,332
-No one could. Yeah.
-MEL: You never see anything.
2514
01:38:41,374 --> 01:38:44,210
But-- I mean--
But comedy is lively.
2515
01:38:44,293 --> 01:38:46,003
Comedy is joy, you know?
2516
01:38:46,045 --> 01:38:48,089
And that's what keeps us going.
2517
01:38:48,172 --> 01:38:50,174
I mean,
we've gotta look forward to...
2518
01:38:50,216 --> 01:38:53,302
to little happinesses,
you know, little joys.
2519
01:38:54,137 --> 01:38:55,805
My very first question.
2520
01:38:55,888 --> 01:38:57,390
Samantha's my granddaughter,
by the way.
2521
01:38:57,473 --> 01:38:59,642
Right, yeah.
We're also very good friends.
2522
01:38:59,684 --> 01:39:02,228
Yeah, and we're good friends,
and we like each other.
2523
01:39:02,311 --> 01:39:04,397
(SIGHS) Do I call you enough?
2524
01:39:05,648 --> 01:39:07,525
Um, when you call me,
you talk a lot,
2525
01:39:07,567 --> 01:39:09,152
and it's great.
2526
01:39:09,235 --> 01:39:11,529
But I would like more calls,
2527
01:39:11,612 --> 01:39:13,865
and I don't get a chance
2528
01:39:13,906 --> 01:39:16,200
to see you... enough of you.
2529
01:39:16,284 --> 01:39:19,078
{\an8}What he loves so much
about being a grandparent,
2530
01:39:19,162 --> 01:39:21,122
{\an8}which he tells me all the time,
is that
2531
01:39:21,205 --> 01:39:23,249
{\an8}your grandchildren love you
no matter what.
2532
01:39:23,332 --> 01:39:26,127
They love you unconditionally,
which is true, we do.
2533
01:39:26,210 --> 01:39:28,838
What is your dating advice
for me, your granddaughter?
2534
01:39:28,921 --> 01:39:31,674
If you got
a smart guy with looks, great.
2535
01:39:31,716 --> 01:39:35,887
-But looks second, looks third.
-SAMANTHA BROOKS: Yeah.
2536
01:39:35,928 --> 01:39:38,222
Creativity, humor,
2537
01:39:39,515 --> 01:39:42,477
joie de vivre, you know,
"love of life,"
2538
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:45,146
that's who you should be
attracted to.
2539
01:39:45,938 --> 01:39:49,484
People who could see that
in you,
2540
01:39:49,567 --> 01:39:52,445
'cause you got it. You know,
they gotta see it in you.
2541
01:39:52,528 --> 01:39:55,239
My grandpa talks about Annie,
my grandmother,
2542
01:39:55,323 --> 01:39:58,242
a lot more now than he used to.
2543
01:39:58,326 --> 01:40:00,244
When she passed
when I was quite young,
2544
01:40:00,328 --> 01:40:03,164
it just wasn't something
anybody really talked about.
2545
01:40:03,247 --> 01:40:05,750
And, recently,
2546
01:40:05,833 --> 01:40:07,335
my grandpa and I
2547
01:40:07,418 --> 01:40:10,588
were just sitting on the couch
at his house, and he said,
2548
01:40:10,671 --> 01:40:12,715
"I wanna show you the movie
To Be or Not to Be."
2549
01:40:13,716 --> 01:40:15,426
And we watched it together,
2550
01:40:15,468 --> 01:40:16,511
and we got
2551
01:40:16,594 --> 01:40:18,888
to watch her singing
and performing,
2552
01:40:18,971 --> 01:40:20,640
and being herself together.
2553
01:40:21,265 --> 01:40:23,017
And that felt like it
2554
01:40:23,100 --> 01:40:25,686
healed something
I didn't even know was broken.
2555
01:40:27,021 --> 01:40:28,898
My grandmother's presence
in that home
2556
01:40:28,981 --> 01:40:30,024
is such a sacred space.
2557
01:40:30,691 --> 01:40:33,861
And Carl's home was that too.
2558
01:40:33,945 --> 01:40:36,405
And that's the hard part
about living that long is
2559
01:40:37,281 --> 01:40:39,867
he's lost so many friends.
2560
01:40:44,163 --> 01:40:45,748
JUDD: Where does your strength
come from?
2561
01:40:45,831 --> 01:40:47,583
You've had a lot of loss
in your life.
2562
01:40:47,667 --> 01:40:50,711
Where do you go to handle
all of that?
2563
01:40:52,338 --> 01:40:53,798
There's no answer to that.
2564
01:40:53,881 --> 01:40:56,133
You just find
something in you...
2565
01:40:56,175 --> 01:40:59,387
-JUDD: Yeah.
-...that gives you the grit
2566
01:40:59,470 --> 01:41:00,930
and the courage
to get through...
2567
01:41:01,013 --> 01:41:02,014
JUDD: Yeah.
2568
01:41:02,098 --> 01:41:03,766
...the bad times that come
2569
01:41:03,808 --> 01:41:06,435
after somebody you love
passes away.
2570
01:41:07,687 --> 01:41:09,438
JUDD: What do you miss most
about Anne?
2571
01:41:10,606 --> 01:41:12,984
-Too many things.
-JUDD: Yeah, just everything.
2572
01:41:13,025 --> 01:41:15,778
Things that nobody in the world
would understand.
2573
01:41:15,861 --> 01:41:17,572
-JUDD: Mm-hmm.
-Uh...
2574
01:41:19,031 --> 01:41:21,033
When faced with...
2575
01:41:22,368 --> 01:41:23,953
an unhappy moment
2576
01:41:24,870 --> 01:41:26,497
the look on her face.
2577
01:41:26,539 --> 01:41:28,666
When making up her mind
to go somewhere,
2578
01:41:28,749 --> 01:41:31,043
how fast she turned and moved.
2579
01:41:31,127 --> 01:41:32,712
It's hard to explain.
I mean, you just--
2580
01:41:32,795 --> 01:41:33,921
JUDD: Yeah.
2581
01:41:34,005 --> 01:41:36,340
There are some things that stay
with you forever, you know.
2582
01:41:37,133 --> 01:41:39,510
You can't indulge yourself
in being
2583
01:41:39,594 --> 01:41:42,096
incredibly unhappy
and miserable...
2584
01:41:42,179 --> 01:41:43,097
JUDD: Yeah.
2585
01:41:43,180 --> 01:41:45,224
...'cause it
doesn't make the pain
2586
01:41:46,183 --> 01:41:48,436
go away or... or better.
2587
01:41:49,061 --> 01:41:50,313
You don't have to pay...
2588
01:41:52,898 --> 01:41:56,068
God, or the world, or spirits
2589
01:41:57,486 --> 01:42:00,281
-for losing somebody great.
-JUDD: Yeah.
2590
01:42:01,073 --> 01:42:02,658
You don't have to pay for it.
2591
01:42:03,743 --> 01:42:06,120
♪ (ZANY PIANO MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
2592
01:42:08,122 --> 01:42:09,457
Hey, hello.
2593
01:42:13,002 --> 01:42:15,421
MAX: My father
is having a wonderful
2594
01:42:15,504 --> 01:42:17,423
fourth or fifth act,
2595
01:42:17,506 --> 01:42:19,133
depending on how you judge it.
2596
01:42:19,216 --> 01:42:21,761
Would any of you like
to see Spaceballs 2?
2597
01:42:21,844 --> 01:42:23,429
(CHEERING, APPLAUSE)
2598
01:42:23,512 --> 01:42:26,474
MAX: Because there's now
all this interest
2599
01:42:26,557 --> 01:42:28,726
{\an8}in redoing his former projects.
2600
01:42:28,809 --> 01:42:29,935
{\an8}We asked,
2601
01:42:30,019 --> 01:42:32,229
{\an8}"What do the fans want?"
2602
01:42:32,271 --> 01:42:34,857
{\an8}But instead,
we're making this movie.
2603
01:42:34,940 --> 01:42:36,442
{\an8}MAX:
So, he's having this amazing
2604
01:42:36,525 --> 01:42:37,943
career renaissance.
2605
01:42:38,027 --> 01:42:40,071
It's the most powerful
Jewish person
2606
01:42:40,112 --> 01:42:42,740
in the universe, Jesus Christ!
2607
01:42:42,782 --> 01:42:45,368
Well, the second most powerful.
2608
01:42:45,451 --> 01:42:47,244
Also, I brought cream cheese.
2609
01:42:47,328 --> 01:42:49,955
♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪
2610
01:42:57,213 --> 01:42:59,423
BARACK OBAMA:
He was born Melvin Kaminsky,
2611
01:43:00,216 --> 01:43:01,967
or as Mel Brooks explains it,
2612
01:43:02,051 --> 01:43:03,844
"Look at Jewish history.
2613
01:43:03,928 --> 01:43:06,931
Unrelieved lamenting
would be intolerable."
2614
01:43:06,972 --> 01:43:08,182
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
2615
01:43:08,265 --> 01:43:11,686
"So, every... (CHUCKLES)
Every ten Jews,
2616
01:43:11,769 --> 01:43:14,939
God designed one to be crazy
and amuse the others."
2617
01:43:14,980 --> 01:43:17,316
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
2618
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:20,778
OBAMA:
He's described his work as
2619
01:43:20,861 --> 01:43:22,154
"unearthing the truth
2620
01:43:22,238 --> 01:43:24,073
that is all around us."
2621
01:43:24,115 --> 01:43:26,158
And by illuminating
uncomfortable truths
2622
01:43:26,242 --> 01:43:28,911
about racism and sexism
and antisemitism,
2623
01:43:29,537 --> 01:43:31,372
he's been called our jester,
2624
01:43:31,455 --> 01:43:32,957
asking us to see ourselves
2625
01:43:32,998 --> 01:43:34,083
as we really are,
2626
01:43:34,166 --> 01:43:36,544
determined
that we laugh ourselves sane.
2627
01:43:36,627 --> 01:43:37,670
I love it.
2628
01:43:37,753 --> 01:43:40,798
OBAMA: Writer, director, actor,
producer, composer.
2629
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:42,633
Okay, okay.
2630
01:43:42,675 --> 01:43:45,344
OBAMA: For his success
and for his psychoanalysis,
2631
01:43:45,428 --> 01:43:47,179
we honor Mel Brooks.
2632
01:43:47,263 --> 01:43:50,307
(APPLAUSE)
2633
01:43:50,349 --> 01:43:53,060
MAX: My dad's story is the story
2634
01:43:53,144 --> 01:43:54,520
of everything America could be.
2635
01:43:55,771 --> 01:43:59,775
You've got this kid
from an immigrant tribe
2636
01:43:59,859 --> 01:44:02,820
who lost his father,
grew up in poverty,
2637
01:44:02,903 --> 01:44:04,488
fought in a World War,
2638
01:44:04,530 --> 01:44:05,948
came home,
2639
01:44:06,031 --> 01:44:09,160
and built one
of the great pillars
2640
01:44:09,201 --> 01:44:10,828
of American culture.
2641
01:44:10,870 --> 01:44:11,954
Comedy.
2642
01:44:12,455 --> 01:44:15,166
(APPLAUSE)
2643
01:44:15,207 --> 01:44:16,584
MAX: And he gets up every day...
2644
01:44:16,667 --> 01:44:19,879
So, this crazy audience
has asked you some questions.
2645
01:44:19,962 --> 01:44:21,714
And there's somebody
waiting to talk to him
2646
01:44:21,797 --> 01:44:23,758
about being Mel Brooks.
2647
01:44:23,841 --> 01:44:26,135
-Keith wants to know...
-Yes.
2648
01:44:26,218 --> 01:44:28,971
...where did you
get your sense of humor?
2649
01:44:31,140 --> 01:44:32,600
From a guy in New Jersey.
2650
01:44:32,683 --> 01:44:35,436
-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
-I mean, when...
2651
01:44:36,604 --> 01:44:39,023
They're pretty funny guys.
2652
01:44:39,064 --> 01:44:43,194
I've learned that people
are dying for communication.
2653
01:44:43,235 --> 01:44:46,906
They're dying for a brush stroke
of sweetness in their lives.
2654
01:44:46,989 --> 01:44:49,241
When are you gonna play
Max Bialystock for me?
2655
01:44:50,367 --> 01:44:53,662
And when you give it to them,
they really respond.
2656
01:44:53,746 --> 01:44:56,290
I mean,
the biggest laugh I ever got
2657
01:44:56,373 --> 01:44:57,875
was, I was on stage,
2658
01:44:57,917 --> 01:45:00,044
and I got a question
from the audience.
2659
01:45:00,127 --> 01:45:01,879
"What do you wear,
boxers or briefs?"
2660
01:45:01,921 --> 01:45:03,589
Boxers or briefs?
2661
01:45:04,131 --> 01:45:05,549
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
2662
01:45:05,591 --> 01:45:07,927
The answer, Joanne, is...
2663
01:45:08,761 --> 01:45:09,929
depends.
2664
01:45:10,012 --> 01:45:12,765
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
2665
01:45:12,848 --> 01:45:13,891
Gotta be safe.
2666
01:45:13,933 --> 01:45:17,478
-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
-(APPLAUSE)
2667
01:45:17,561 --> 01:45:19,730
That laugh
will stay with me forever.
2668
01:45:19,772 --> 01:45:22,233
It was the greatest,
biggest laugh I ever got.
2669
01:45:22,316 --> 01:45:24,693
HOST:
The one and only, Mel Brooks.
2670
01:45:25,402 --> 01:45:27,071
MEL: So, it's quid pro quo.
2671
01:45:27,154 --> 01:45:28,906
You give them
a little sweetness,
2672
01:45:28,948 --> 01:45:30,324
you get it back.
2673
01:45:30,866 --> 01:45:32,117
I wasn't sure
2674
01:45:32,201 --> 01:45:34,203
when they said,
"You've won a Peabody Award."
2675
01:45:34,286 --> 01:45:36,580
I said, "Oh, no shit."
2676
01:45:36,664 --> 01:45:41,085
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
2677
01:45:41,168 --> 01:45:42,253
MEL: I'd like to say
2678
01:45:42,294 --> 01:45:43,921
I humbly acc--
2679
01:45:43,963 --> 01:45:45,589
But I'm not humble.
2680
01:45:45,673 --> 01:45:48,259
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
2681
01:45:48,300 --> 01:45:49,593
JUDD: You've said to me before,
2682
01:45:49,635 --> 01:45:51,095
like, your main advice
is to be kind.
2683
01:45:51,136 --> 01:45:53,138
MEL: Yeah, just be kind.
2684
01:45:53,222 --> 01:45:55,850
That's enough advice
for anybody.
2685
01:45:55,933 --> 01:45:58,310
You know,
and it's so easy to hurt people.
2686
01:45:58,394 --> 01:46:00,479
Just-- We, you know--
2687
01:46:01,313 --> 01:46:03,941
Don't, you know?
2688
01:46:04,024 --> 01:46:06,360
But do you ever just, like,
look at everything and go,
2689
01:46:06,443 --> 01:46:09,613
"What the hell is going on
with all of this?"
2690
01:46:09,697 --> 01:46:11,991
Yeah, "What are we supposed
to do here, you know?"
2691
01:46:12,074 --> 01:46:13,075
Well, I found out
2692
01:46:13,117 --> 01:46:14,451
I'm supposed
to make people laugh, so...
2693
01:46:14,994 --> 01:46:16,328
I do that, you know?
2694
01:46:17,663 --> 01:46:19,373
No salute to Carl Reiner
or his career
2695
01:46:19,456 --> 01:46:20,374
would be complete
2696
01:46:20,457 --> 01:46:22,293
without a few words from
his illegitimate son,
2697
01:46:22,334 --> 01:46:23,335
Mel Brooks.
2698
01:46:23,419 --> 01:46:28,632
(APPLAUSE)
2699
01:46:28,716 --> 01:46:31,802
Well, let's tell the truth, huh?
2700
01:46:31,886 --> 01:46:34,680
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
2701
01:46:34,763 --> 01:46:38,392
The truth is, ladies and Jews,
you know the truth.
2702
01:46:38,475 --> 01:46:39,727
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
2703
01:46:39,810 --> 01:46:41,687
The truth is,
2704
01:46:41,770 --> 01:46:43,772
I don't know
if he deserves this, do you?
2705
01:46:44,940 --> 01:46:46,817
A lot of people
don't agree with this.
2706
01:46:46,859 --> 01:46:48,652
I'd like to cut right now.
2707
01:46:48,694 --> 01:46:49,987
Cut outside
2708
01:46:50,029 --> 01:46:52,865
and see the demonstration
against Carl Reiner.
2709
01:46:52,948 --> 01:46:55,826
Go, cut outside now.
Let's see the truth.
2710
01:46:55,868 --> 01:46:57,953
Damn it, let's see it.
2711
01:46:57,995 --> 01:47:03,167
{\an8}-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
-(CARL LAUGHING LOUDLY)
2712
01:47:03,208 --> 01:47:06,337
That's what's
really happening here. This!
2713
01:47:06,420 --> 01:47:08,005
And now,
2714
01:47:08,047 --> 01:47:09,798
while we're telling the truth...
2715
01:47:09,882 --> 01:47:11,592
-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
-(CARL LAUGHING LOUDLY)
2716
01:47:11,675 --> 01:47:13,010
...let's tell it all.
2717
01:47:13,093 --> 01:47:14,678
For 25 years,
2718
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:16,639
he made me out
to be The 2,000--
2719
01:47:16,722 --> 01:47:19,475
to be this Jewish person.
2720
01:47:19,558 --> 01:47:22,144
And there was money in it,
and I went along with it.
2721
01:47:22,227 --> 01:47:23,854
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
2722
01:47:23,896 --> 01:47:25,439
Hold it, hold it.
2723
01:47:26,690 --> 01:47:30,319
And now, tonight, here,
in this stupid place...
2724
01:47:30,402 --> 01:47:31,362
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
2725
01:47:31,445 --> 01:47:34,281
...I'm gonna re...
I'm gonna reveal.
2726
01:47:34,365 --> 01:47:38,118
I am really a Gentile
born in Waco, Texas.
2727
01:47:38,911 --> 01:47:40,329
This is not my nose.
2728
01:47:40,412 --> 01:47:44,041
Look carefully. Watch. Watch me.
2729
01:47:44,124 --> 01:47:48,879
This is not, this is not,
this is...
2730
01:47:48,921 --> 01:47:51,882
Twenty-five years,
I'm wearing this nose.
2731
01:47:51,924 --> 01:47:53,717
-(APPLAUSE)
-(LAUGHING)
2732
01:47:53,801 --> 01:47:55,719
MEL: I've put up with this.
2733
01:47:55,803 --> 01:47:58,722
I love you. I love you.
(MUMBLES INDISTINCTLY)
2734
01:47:58,764 --> 01:48:02,559
That's the best I've ever seen,
Brooks.
2735
01:48:02,601 --> 01:48:04,937
That's the best I've ever--
It was worth it.
2736
01:48:05,020 --> 01:48:07,231
It was worth it. Oh, God.
2737
01:48:07,314 --> 01:48:12,695
♪ (JAZZ VERSION OF "SPRINGTIME
FOR HITLER" PLAYING) ♪
2738
01:49:20,179 --> 01:49:22,056
♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪